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Featured: Carlos Mencia, Chris Rock, Robbie Hoffman, Joe Rogan
What’s in This Episode
- Carlos Mencia tax evasion charges and new tour
- Carlos Mencia on joke-stealing allegations and internet cancellation
- Carlos Mencia’s therapy journey and self-reflection
- Chris Rock on Los Angeles and the nature of fame
- Robbie Hoffman on comedy boundaries and non-binary jokes
Questions Answered in This Episode
What are Carlos Mencia’s tax evasion charges about?
Carlos Mencia was charged with 12 felony counts of tax evasion in L.A. County. He pled not guilty and claims he filled out 1099s everywhere but didn’t have enough money to cover his tax obligations at the time, saying he plans to file all back taxes within weeks.
Did Carlos Mencia admit to stealing jokes?
In this interview, Carlos does not explicitly admit to the joke-stealing allegations, though Johnny Mac notes that when he met Mencia in person years ago, he was apologetic about the accusations rather than denying them outright.
What is Carlos Mencia’s new tour called?
Carlos Mencia’s new tour is named ‘Keep Me Out of Jail,’ which he says is his way of taking control of the narrative around his current legal troubles.
What did Chris Rock say about Los Angeles?
Chris Rock described LA as a complicated place that attracts people seeking fame and dreams, noting it has beautiful weather but also an underbelly that people pretend doesn’t exist. He emphasized the shift from people wanting to be great to just wanting to be famous.
What controversial jokes has Robbie Hoffman made?
Robbie Hoffman has taken heat for jokes about the non-binary community and dismissing they-them pronouns. She defends her right to joke about these topics, noting she identifies as queer and has undergone top surgery.
Is Carlos Mencia the first person canceled by the internet?
Carlos Mencia claims he was the first person the internet tried to cancel, attributing much of the escalation to Joe Rogan repeatedly driving the joke-stealing story, which he says he was advised not to publicly address at the time.
Full Transcript
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Hello, I’m Johnny Mac with your Daily Comedy News. Carlos Mencia did a really interesting interview with the San Antonio Current. You may recall that Carlos Mencia was recently charged with 12 felony counts of tax evasion in L.A. County. Mencia pled not guilty to all counts.
He disputes the allegations. He told The Current, I’m not a victim. Let’s move forward and see where this train goes. At the end of the day, my work will hopefully be what people will remember me by. Well, that’s a whole other conversation.
Carlos named his new tour, Keep Me Out of Jail. The current was curious, is that your way of taking control of the narrative? Carlos said, you know, everything today is some kind of manipulation. Up until 2007 or 2008, I started getting popular and I started getting a lot of hate because of joke stealing allegations. I wasn’t ready for all that to come.
Even since then, my business has dropped way more than the average career. Since then, I’ve been treading water like a little duck. So when I was charged with tax evasion, it was almost welcomed. The current was like, why’d you welcome that? What happened?
Carlos said they came up with a new tax task force in Southern California. I was expecting that at some point I’d go to a comedy club and get a phone call from my agent saying, listen, you’re not going to get paid this week. California is garnishing your paycheck or some stuff like that. And I’d be like, oh, no. All right.
Time to take care of that. I grew up poor when my family was really crunching for money. My mom and dad would put all the bills on the table. The pink ones were the ones we had to pay. That was the way I dealt with my taxes.
Inevitably, you’re going to have to take care of it. And so I’m taking care of it. Two things there. So do you remember like when Chappelle’s show blew up, Carlos was like the replacement and they treated it like it was, you know, a new season of Chappelle. Basically, it was same kind of set, same kind of vibe.
Like he was really up there into the joke stealing thing. Carlos Menzelia is still one of my favorite lines ever. So the current was like, it sounds like you want to take responsibility, but you also pled not guilty to the charges, right? Carlos said, I never evaded. I filled out my 1099s everywhere I went.
I legit didn’t have enough money to cover my bases. I knew this would happen, but within the next couple of weeks, all those tax years are going to be filed. Once those tax years are filed, there’s no more evasion. It’s kind of like they’re accusing me of murdering somebody, but the person is still alive. I’m just going to have to pay whatever fines and then it’ll go away.
At the end of the day, they did the right thing. Hmm. I’m not an expert in tax, but I’m reading that and I’m like, huh? Yeah. OK.
Hey, I trust you, Carlos. The current said, you’ve said in the past that you’re the first person the Internet has ever tried to cancel. What do you mean? Carlos said, that’s me, bro. Like, legit, everybody thought the joke-stealing allegations would go away, but there were some factors that nobody considered.
I’ll weigh in here. Like, the joke-stealing? First, it was being driven by Joe Rogan, somebody who had a platform. So when Joe drove her repeatedly, the story got bigger. I’ve met Carlos Mencia.
He was very nice in person, but when I met him, he wasn’t saying that he didn’t do the joke-stealing. So I don’t know if this is revisionist or I haven’t read enough of the article, but, like, I was in the room with the guy. Like, he wasn’t saying that that didn’t happen. He was very apologetic and whatever that was, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, it’s probably more like 20 at this point. But as he said, so when Joe drove over repeatedly, the story got bigger.
I was told to let it go and not address it. It wasn’t what I want to do. So I said, okay, I disagree with you, but I’ll do what you guys want. I paid a lot of money to a lot of people for that advice and it was 100% wrong. The current did a good job here.
They were like, all right, if you could go back, would you defend yourself harder against the allegations? Carlos said, no, I wouldn’t, but for a different reason. I wouldn’t defend myself because if I did, I wouldn’t have learned that I’m not a very sensitive person. I would never have been able to understand bullying. Go online.
You can see that they tried to attack me for everything, from my name being Carlos.. To the fact that I’m not Mexican, to stealing jokes. I don’t remember anyone, I don’t remember anybody being upset or making comments about his name being Carlos. I do remember being surprised to learn that he wasn’t of Mexican ancestry because we used to do like a comedy World Cup kind of thing, you know, and we would pitch comedians of whatever ancestry against other people. So I think Louis C.K.
From the top of my mind is of Mexican ancestry.
And then Is Carlos from Honduras?
I’m doing this from memory. The editor chimed in here that Carlos Mencia’s birth name is Ned. And yes, he’s of Honduran ancestry. See, my brain still works. But I don’t remember anybody being like, your name’s not Carlos.
I don’t remember that. Anyway, Carlos Mencia said there was a lot of stuff they tried. It was concerted effort. When that occurred, it took me a long time to realize that if somebody thinks you’re a jerk cleaning it up, F that person. But if everybody thinks you’re a jerk, you’re probably a jerk.
The current nailing it again. Are you saying that you were a jerk, D-word, but didn’t realize it? Carlos said, yes, it took a decade of therapy for me to realize that. One of my best friends said to me, you can be a effing a-hole sometimes and you don’t even know it. I had to deal with that and really look within.
I’d say from 2010 to 2020, that was the journey I was on, trying to find myself in that respect. I think having to deal with tax evasion allegations now is the culmination of all that. In a way, it’s liberating because I’ve been waiting for the shoe to drop. Really, really fascinating stuff there. Chris Rock spoke to Variety about his relationship with Los Angeles.
Chris said, it’s weird. I just bought a place there. In parentheses, it says assumes a snobbish effect. So Chris must have said, I just bought a place there. So I went here in L.A.
I love parts of it. I always say the average movie studio like Paramount. What’s in Paramount? Does cameras, sound equipment. What do you do with that?
Can you really steal that stuff? There’s more value at the average Home Depot than at Paramount. But Paramount’s got armed guards. Why? Because they have dreams in there and people will do anything to get their dreams.
Chris Rock is so grounded. I’ve appreciated reading this article. He said L.A. Is a complicated place, man. Fame’s a complicated thing.
I’ve seen the switch in my lifetime. It used to be that everybody wanted to be great, a great singer, great actor, great comedian. Now it’s just fame, and the greatness is almost assumed. I mean, you’re always going to be at it at some point if you don’t have the goods, but L.A. Is the mecca of that.
It can be beautiful, it’s got the best weather in the world, but it also attracts an underbelly that people want to pretend doesn’t exist. Wow. Robbie Hoffman says she’s still figuring out what topics, if any, are off-limits. She caught up with NPR. She has taken heat for some of her jokes, including jokes about the non-binary community and dismissing the use of they-them pronouns.
Hoffman told NPR, I like to cope and explore through jokes, and I feel like I should be more able to do that than, say, some of my counterparts. I feel like if I can’t talk about it, who can? Hoffman describes herself as, quote, somebody who’s clearly in the queer space, who cut my breasts off, who could be they them at the drop of a hat. I think it’s fair if they’re mad about it. I also think it’s fair for many of us to laugh at it.
And I feel like I want to talk about the stuff that I know and experience day to day. She talked about her first standup performance, which she described as brutal. Hoffman said, I went to a club where I was living and I said, what is the best place to bomb? She only made it through one minute of a five minute set. But said, it was good, even the one minute I did.
I’ve never been the overnight sensation, overnight success. I’ve always been the slow and steady, keep at it. She was asked if she would host a late night show. Robbie Hoffman, 12.30, make 12.30 great again. Seth, goodbye.
How about Robbie Hoffman at 12.30? That could be interesting. She says, I’d be excellent. Call me. I’m on board.
Stavros Halgias did the Maria Bamford questionnaire for Vulture. Some of the questions were, what did you have for breakfast? Is it your usual? Stavros said, I was running late to a podcast and I had a chicken sausage, egg, and cheese with a green juice from a bagel and juice place that happened to be right where my friend’s studio is. I was really pumped about the chicken sausage.
I find pork sausage a little too heavy, unless it’s in brat form and coming right off the grill, but they didn’t divulge it was maple flavored. Real problem, put a damper on the entire breakfast experience. I want my breakfast sandwiches purely savory. Stavros tells us I tend not to eat breakfast because I’m regressing to all my worst habits currently, so I basically don’t eat until I’m starving. Then I order an obscene amount of takeout and one giant meal.
I found the one-way intermittent fasting doesn’t work. We will skip the comedy stock market today. Why, Johnny Mac? Because today I’m at the podcast festival. We love the comedy stock market.
I do, too. But here’s the deal. This is the week of the big podcasting conference. So right now I’m in New York City at the podcasting conference. I had to tape this episode in advance.
So I don’t have enough knowledge of what happened during the week for the comedy stock market. We’ll get back to it next week. Matthew Broussard spoke to NOLA.com. He talked about his heritage, which is Cajun and Jewish. He said, those two groups don’t get along very well.
Quoting Broussard, here’s how much Cajuns hate Jews. They design all their food so Jews can’t eat it. Every dish is either shellfish or pork. All of it. Shrimp creole, crawfish etouffee, jambalaya, boudin.
You know how not kosher boudin is? It’s made up of ground pork wrapped in pages of the Old Testament. And he says, it’s delicious. Good tag. He says his father continued to speak to his brothers in French, but he wasn’t that proud of Cajun culture.
Matthew said the only Cajun presence we had in our house was Adam Sandler’s character in The Waterboy. That was deeply offensive to my father. He hated that guy. You go, Mr. Broussard.
I’m with you. One of his hobbies is exploring using City Bike, which is the New York City bike share program. He says his tracking feature shows that he’s hit 1,700 of the city’s 2,500 bike stations. That is impressive. He’s trying to hit them all.
He says mathematically, it’s an incredibly difficult problem to solve. It’s called the traveling salesman problem, plotting the minimum route between a bunch of different nodes, whether it’s 20 or 100. It becomes mathematically impossible. Even with computers, the amount of time it takes to compute is incalculable. And speaking of Adam Sandler, Travis Kelsey spoke about Adam Sandler on Travis’s podcast there.
You may recall Adam Sandler was the officiant at the Travis Kelsey-Adam Sandler wedding. Travis said he’s just been the effing best person on the planet. And from the Toronto Guardian, they do a regular look at local comedians. Today, it’s Dustin Searcy, who describes his comedy style as a blend of silliness, sarcasm and passionate storytelling. Who are your influences, Dustin Searcy?
Great list here. Mr. Bean, Daniel Tosh, Dave Chappelle, the genie from Aladdin. That’s Robin Williams, isn’t it? And Terry Crews from the Old Spice commercials.
I love that list. Who’s your favorite comedian growing up? Robin Williams. Now it tracks. Favorite comedian now?
He said it varies day to day, but right now a YouTube video of Larry David getting mad at a parking lot gate because it won’t accept his credit card, causing him to hold up traffic. So Larry David. I also always drink a club soda with lime. This is fun. What’s your favorite bit you’ve written and why are you proud of it?
When I was in grade three, my teacher was trying to teach us the word synonym. And to make her and the class laugh, I kept pronouncing it cinnamon. With slight variations, not the most creative joke, but I committed 100%. After a couple of minutes, I had her in tears, which I was very proud of because I had a massive crush on her. She was hesitant to consider a relationship because of the age gap.
She was in her early 20s and I was in my 80s. The way to her heart was making her laugh. Sadly, we never dated. And that is your comedy news for today. What’s on tomorrow’s show?
I don’t know because I taped this a week ago. Did I mention I’m at a podcasting conference? See you with something tomorrow.