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Caloroga Shark Media. Hi there, I’m Johnny Mack with your Daily Comedy News. My guest today is the comedian Ismo. We’ll get to him at a second. For ten years, just for last, Vancouver has been Western Canada’s biggest comedy festival.
The festival is bigger and better than ever this year February twelfth through the twenty second and Ismo will be performing there on Sunday, February fifteenth at the Vogue Theater. It’s part of his Perseverance tour. Now, if you don’t know this guy yet, you’re going to love him. I suggest maybe hit pause now and go watch on YouTube. He did a set about the word ass.
He did this on Conan, So just search Imo Ismo Conan and it’ll come up on YouTube. It is brilliant. He does a lot of wordplay. You’re gonna love this guy. Ismo is an internationally acclaimed comedian, author, rally driver we get into that, and master of wordplay.
Globally recognized as the voice of all second language English speakers, Ismo is one over audiences in person online with his sharp takes on language, culture and life’s absurdities. In my prep, I learned he had an accident in which he heard his back. I let off with that, and that got us into some other things, and eventually here we get into a discussion of comedy in general and his comedy. I loved talking to this guy. Here’s ismo how is your back?
My back, It’s it’s almost back to normal, but it’s I still feel it, but it’s yeah, I did break it, but the end of August, so it’s yeah, I’ve been trying to exercise it now. I’m sure the bone has finished boning. No, that’s not the word boning. In Finland, we say the bone is boning when it’s like becoming more bone. But yeah, but I think the bone is fine.
It’s just that I yeah, it’s just the muscles are tight and they’re still like eggs sometimes. What happened. I jumped on a dune. Buggy atv or a motocross track and a jump went way too far and I landed from like I don’t know, thirty feet. I don’t like.
It was just like it was like, yeah, yeah, that I broke one vertebrae, A piece broke off. Is that an activity that you do or was that just a one off? Hey, let me go out and do something crazy. I started to drive rally a couple of years ago, so I’ve been doing some motorsports and I’m surprisingly good at rally driving, which is insane because I started in my forties. So but.
That was a dune buggy, so that was a different event. That was like I’ve never really driven that thing, so that was crazy. But so but yeah, I do like motorsports and I’ve always been kind of a speed freak. Where do you go rally driving in the state, so fascinated by this, This sounds awesome. I’ve rallied draven in Finland so far.
So last summer I did three competitions and I’m going to do three competitions. I’m actually going to do like the World Championship Rally too. In it says like one like the biggest rally event in Finland. It’s in August, so I’m going to do that also now. And so yeah, just yeah.
Raley driving is like it’s like on regular roads they closed them off and it’s like it’s I love it. It’s crazy, it sounds amazing. It sounds like one of those things that you know, like you alluded to, you get a couple of years on you and you start to do these more adventurous things that you’re like, I should have done this when I was twenty. Yes, I wish, I like I was. I was a big rally fan, like rally of course, like in America Canada, people don’t.
I don’t know if there’s a big rally scene in Canada, but like Americans don’t even know what a rally means other than a politician giving a speech, which is not days it’s so it’s yeah, But in Europe it’s huge, like because you close off roads and then you like and it’s I was a huge fan of rally when I was a kid and always wanted to drive it then try it, But now it took like four years to finally do it. So I’ve been faking it as a dumb American. I don’t know what it is either. So you said you’re doing the biggest ones. There was a civilian.
I assume you’re not like an elite. I apologize if you are an elite’s rally driver. So can anyone do this? How does this work? It is like levels, like I guess any sports.
So but I’m actually participating in the big. Actually world championship event. But my car is of course not gonna be the one that the top driver driving. But it’s like there’s Rally one is the best, Rally two is the second best. So I’m going to drive Rally three, which is still good, but it’s so I’m actually competing.
But it’s like, of course I’m not expecting to win, but I’m hoping I’m not last either. So I guess it’s kind of sort of not quite. I’ve ran the New York City Marathon and theoretically I could have won. Yeah, well exactly, yeah, so I’m definitely not expecting you to do. But the thing is that, like last year, I did.
It, Like I was in a few competitions, and I was so happy that I started to do this like two years ago, and I still beat some people with a similar type of car that have been doing their lives. So I was like. Really like people were like they couldn’t believe that it’s a comedian driving the car. Let’s say that, like it was. I was better than I thought or anybody thought, but of course I’m still not gonna win anything.
You are more famous over there than you are here. Are you a celebrity driver over there? Are you just on the down low and no one really knows because you mentioned that, Oh, comedians in the race, how is that playing out? It’s like, oh, we gotta beat this guy. Well yeah, I’ve heard that some of the guys who are like, well, if this comedian is gonna be and I’m gonna sell my car, and then I hope they are now selling their car.
But so but yeah, it’s like, yeah, people, most people. In Finland know me. So it’s and I’m sure they rally organizers are happy that I’m participating because I’ll bring some publicity to it. But but yeah, so I’m not hiding that I’m a comedian, but also I’m actually there to race. I’m not there to joke.
So much fun? Is there TV coverage because then as a producer type, you would be of an interesting story that we would want to package. Yeah, that was like even in the smaller rallies I did last year, there was some TV coverage a little bit in Finland. But now this is going to be the international event that’s like the biggest motorsport event in Finland every year, so that there’s gonna be a lot a lot of coverage for that. So let’s see how it goes.
It’s great. As I was diving on your resume, I saw that you opened for Ralphie May for a little bit. So when I when I was at Serious Radio, I got to know Ralphie a little bit pretty well. I just wanted to spend a minute just talk about what an awesome guy he was. I just had a look up.
I can’t believe he passed away in twenty seventeen, but just for my listeners, can you just share some Ralphie adventures. I actually opened for him only once, so and that was like years and years ago. It was so long ago. He was doing a show in Finland. I lived in Finland back then, and the organizers asked me to open, and I was like excited to do it.
And I was actually doing my set in Finnish because it was in Finland, because that was like so long ago that I didn’t even do much. English stuff yet, So I think I was. I think I was doing finish. But then we had some talks and I always remembered that he said one thing to me that he said that whatever you. Have, just put it all online.
And I didn’t listen, and I wish I did, because like I’ve been putting way more stuff later. But like, but then I didn’t even have much English stuff. That was long ago. But I I’ve only recently, like the past few years, I’ve started to put way more stuff online and that has made a huge difference. So he gave me the best advice that I didn’t listen to.
Do you find it a pain in the neck to you have to feed the beast of social media? Are you doing crowd work for crowdwork’s sake? Are you on stage going, oh, this could be a clip? Or are you just doing your thing and letting your team figure that out, because I know there’s like this whole devil of you got to just constantly put things out now? Yeah?
Yeah, And that has been a like I think for most comics it has been like so Goose comics, how often like perfection is when it comes to putting stuff out and we’re always like not that. But then I some years ago I hired a team and they are basically not even asking me. They are just putting stuff out. Every week, and it’s been hugely great because if the comedian is like deciding what to put out, it’s going to be like one clip a year. But like, do we always like, yeah, I didn’t like the way I said that one part, or I did like we think it, we overthink it.
So it’s really good that there’s a separate team of people who are just cutting all my shows and just putting them the clips and putting them out. So that has made a huge difference. And I would recommend that to all comedians just hire somebody else to do it, because I mean, I’m sure there’s some comics who are like really good at that, like editing and putting stuff out, but like most comics are not. So that was the best decision of my life to hire that like a team to do it. And I don’t really do that much crowd work.
Sometimes I do when we do post that, but I don’t really do it for that. So I like tons of old stuff that we can post, and sometimes we post new stuff too, but of course I don’t want to have too much stuff of the current stuff I’m doing live online. But there can be a few few that but so, but I was I was kind of a late late adapter of social media adopter. Adapter that’s not an adapter adopter, I don’t even know, because adapter is the one you use for electricity, but adopt. So also you can adapt to social media, but you can also adopt social media.
Okay, those are funny words. But yeah, I’ve never been like, really that has been hard for me, but I’ve studied. In the past few years, I actually started to enjoy the social media a little bit. But before that it was just something that I was just like, I knew you have to do it, but I was not like, not that adoptive. But now I’m.
Actually finally starting to do some podcasts and like to do lots of other content that we’ve been shooting some sketches and scenes and stuff like that, so so like doing like other stuf also online, and that’s been really great. So yeah, it’s funny how things change. If you go back twenty years ago, all the what I call the brick Wall comedians, they were all hating Dean Cook because he was just a social media comic. He’s just on MySpace, and Dane is talented and just happen to figure out that part of it first. It’s funny how everything’s just come around.
That’s like, that’s like I wish I would have like figured this out way sooner. Like it’s that’s the way the world was going a long time ago, and the early early adopters definitely they got they really they nailed it. And yeah, every profession, I’m sure when something new comes and things change, people resist it and yeah, so yeah, I wish I would do that or would have done it more. Now I’m doing it way more and it’s it’s working. But yeah, I’m sure like some comedians are like so purist purists that they are like, yeah, you can only do it in certain way.
But I think the only rule is to people have to laugh, don’t steal jokes and make people laugh. That’s the only only two rules. Yeah, yeah, that’s how are you finding audiences? I know. One of the topics that kept coming up last year was the helpful audience member that I’m going to set you up, mister comedian, so you can have a crowd work thing and I’m going to help you do your act.
Are you running into that or is that kind of calm down? I don’t run do that that much. Like sometimes yeah, I get sometimes like heckles, and sometimes they’re actually kind of funny, but I don’t get heckled that much. I mean analyzing it sometimes because I have an accent I don’t know if you notice that I have a kind of a strong accent. Kind of sometimes I was thinking that maybe there’s a joke in it, Like heckling a second language comedian is kind of like tripping somebody in the Special Olympics.
It’s like people whould feel like they don’t want to heckle me, but they of course sometimes do. But I sometimes see other communies getting way more heckles than I do. So as your style has developed, you do a lot of wordplay, a lot of commentary on English language. Was that something you deliberately set out to do or did that just develop over time. I’ve always like been hugely obsessed with language and wordplay, even when I was a kid, and then I was in Finland when I started to do come out in Finnish.
A big chunk of. That was wordplay too, Like it’s never been only wordplay, but a big chunk of it has been wordplay in Finnish.
And then I explained it to English, and then turned out that like I was comin…
Had, I didn’t. I was kind of assuming that I’m sure there’s a bunch of comedians who’ve already thought of all this stuff, but turns out now in many I’m the first one to figure this out, which is kind of blowing my mind sometimes that like, I can actually come up with lots of like new language observations about the language that’s not even my first language. So I’ve been excited about that. And I think it also helps that it is my second language, because then I can see the forest from the trees, or like I can, I can see the things that most native speakers wouldn’t see. I’ll recommend to my listeners if they haven’t or ready, to watch your somewhat famous Conan set, which has some wordplay there.
I won’t spoil any of it. I appreciate the ratitat style, you know. I guess i’d put you more in that coategory than the storyteller. One of the things I talk about on the show is one hundred percent of the time, if I put a comedy special on, my wife will show up thirty eight minutes into it, stand there and say is this guy funny? And I find myself explaining, well, you see what he just said he set up fourteen minutes ago.
That’s called the callback.
And then Dad and she just and so what she came by yesterday on the laundry run.
You were just in the middle of just boom boom boom boom boom and got the laugh and she came and went, So I’m like, all right, I like this. It’s awesome. Oh yeah, yeah, if you like yeah, that makes sense. So I do have callback sometimes, but it’s mostly like quick stuff and take one subject and just milik it till the end. And well, I’m glad that she enjoyed it.
Now, your stage persona is set. You’re in real life too, is so charismatic. You just have this whole vibe of hey, we’re having a good time and we’re all in this together. It’s great. No, thank you, thanks.
I’ve yeah, that’s that’s nice. I don’t hear that word often, but I guess that’s nice. I’m like, I like to now, I like to think myself as carriages madic it just like I don’t know, I’ve always just think of the jokes and the delivery, just kind of the rhythm and the delivery. It just comes naturally. I don’t really think of it that much, but I have got some comments sometimes that like people are really like paying attention to every every detail, and it’s because but yeah, I’m glad that, I’m glad you see it like that.
That’s yeah, it’s always like, that’s all. We’re just talking actually with somebody earlier that like that. Most comics are like really insecure about themselves and their own stuff. I think it’s only the good comics that are insecure. The shitty ones are like they think they know everything, so always questioning.
And I’m not a comic in case you can’t tell, but as I understand the art of it, you’re always looking for economy of words and trying to tighten a bit and see if you can get one more tag in there. So right, like, for a lot of these things, the work’s never finished. Yeah, exactly. And that’s why we don’t like putting stuff out because we never feel it’s completely finished. But that’s the great thing, which also media, you can put the same thing out later when it’s finished.
But that’s the thing is that it’s really hard to me to understand. It’s hard for me to understand how people make like comedy movies or plays and stuff. When you first write the whole thing, and you do the whole thing, and then you show it to people, because with comedy, we like we work it with the crowd to make it better so that you always can tweak it. And often the word economy like I know this. Sometimes I’m like take words out to make it tighter.
But often I end up that I have to add words to get people, to give people more time to think so it’s not too fast because the rhythm has to be just perfect. So often I end up saying the setup twice so everybody kind of really gets it, and then I do the punchl like I like to sometimes think. Sometimes I feel like I have to add stuff, or I have to add long palsies or but sometimes I have to just tiden it and it’s always that rhythm sense. I’m kind of I’m happy that I kind of have the sense of the when the laughter is gonna come. If you have the like exactly the right amount of time before the information hits you and then the punchline hits you.
Let me get a break in here. Have you seen my heating bill gotta make somebody at podcast? He’s isma I’m Johnny McBee right back. His most Perseverance tour takes into Just for Last Vancouver he’ll be there on Sunday the fifteenth, playing at the Vogue Theater. Are you thinking and writing in English or are you thinking in Finish and translating.
I take turns, like now I was in Finland for a month during the holidays, and then I was also be thinking and writing in Finnish. But now I’ve been here for a month and now I’m just thinking and writing in English, so it kind of it changes. But yeah, and I end up talking Finish every day, mostly on the phone call or somebody finished in here. But there was like one time in my life where I didn’t speak any Finish for like three weeks, and that was like then I think I started to dream all in English and it kind of switched. But no, that was just one time in my life.
But that has never happened since because now I’m always, of course like communicating with Finnish people, if not daily, almost daily, and then I’m never like in the fully that I kind of just one hundred percent thinking in English, but I don’t translate. Well, I’m while we’re having this conversation, I’m definitely not even thinking Finish at all, like I’m just thinking and speaking English. I think I’m thinking in English. Maybe I’m thinking in pictures. I don’t know.
Yeah, I’m I can barely get home from the airport if I had to speak Spanish. But when I do that, I think in Spanish. And as I’m doing this, so I’m in my Johnny Mac persona. The guy who holds the microphone is Johnny Mack and the real guy in real life is john and I when I’m in this mode, I tend to think as Johnny Max. So one of the questions I would have is, if you’re home and you’re thinking in Finnish, say does your bring kick in?
And go? Oh this this goes into an English language set, I’ll keep this for the finish set. Or I’m just curious about that whole process. Yeah, yeah, that is like interesting, and I’m like, I’m definitely wherever I am. Sometimes I get an idea that’s a finish joke that only it’s a word finished wordplay or some Finnish culture thing.
That I know it’s not going to translate. So then I just write that down and finish, even though I’m wherever I happen to be. But but but. Then there’s there’s lots of stuff that can be translated to both languages. But it’s kind of like, now when I’m here, I’m going to be in America or like in mostly like yeah, mostly in North America now and until like May, so I’m gonna I’m gonna just mostly just think and write in English.
But then I am doing a new tour in Finland in August September, so in the back of my head I am like like finding stuff for that too, And when I go to Finland in the summer, I’m gonna definitely like spend the day looking at all this new stuff that I’ve written in English and see which can be translated to Finnish.
And now, when I did a bunch of new stuff in Finland just before I left Finlan…
And then now I’ve been here, i’m here, I’ve been like trying to figure out which one of those I could translate to English. So it’s kind of so. If I run out of new ideas in either language, I can just go to the other language material and try to fun stuff there. So it is kind of great. And sometimes it surprises me that a joke that I first wrote in Finnish is actually funnier in English or vice versa, or sometimes it kind of translates in theory but not in practice.
And yeah, it’s and sometimes you just don’t have a word. It’s just like it’s just like I had this whole long bit about like in Finland about like I don’t really know what a word is. I guess a hobo would be the word in English, but like it’s just such a different word because in Finland it’s kind of not a bad it’s kind of a nice word for like a guy drinking all day in a park bend. It’s like kind of a nice word. It’s not like a bad word.
But in English there’s not a nice word for that.
And then that whole bit is like the energy is different.
So sometimes there’s just no words that like there’s like some great words in Finnish that like the English language just doesn’t like like everyday life, every day life, like you know, like just the basic everyday normal life. That’s like there’s a word for that, like a simple word for that in Finnish, and it’s a great word, but there’s no every day life. That’s three words that all have other but in Finland, we have this one word that like summarizes all that and it’s a great word, and you guys need that. There’s so many other words that like Finnish has but English doesn’t.
And then there’s some words the other way around that Finnish doesn’t have, s…
I know when you’re over here, you don’t do politics. I’ve listened to other interviews with you where that’s not really your thing. Is there anything to be mined in the other direction? Performing in Finland As somebody who’s been in the United States at a time where things have been a little more colorful than they have traditionally. Been, there’s lots of people always in Finland like like, oh, like you’re probably talking all about this stuff, and I’m like, no, there’s enough comedians doing the political stuff.
There’s saw much of them and like online and everywhere. So I just decided years ago that I’m not going to touch it. But actually recently I have been trying to write a joke about just trying to understand the American politics, and I think that’s going to be a good joke. So it’s not like a political joke, but it’s like just trying to understand because and the whole premise is kind of like there’s two parties, like it makes like in Finland we have eight parties and I still don’t like any of them. How could I pick from two?
Like it’s like it?
And then there’s the whole thing about all these subjects.
So I was thinking that I want to because I do think of that stuff sometimes, but I don’t want to be a political comic. But I could write a bit about trying to understand politics, and I think that would be a good angle for it. That would be kind of like a unique And because I don’t want to, I’m always trying to go for something that’s like hopefully unique or something like an inside. It’s not like I’m just like trying to like preach or preach to the choir or whatever. Sure, So the reason we’re speaking today is you were performing at the Just for Last Vancouver Comedy Festival.
I was checking out the Vogue Theater where you’re going to be playing. It looks like a real nice old style movie theater that they converted into doing live shows. Do you like that kind of room. Or to an old movies. I don’t know if I’ve done that before.
I don’t think I’ve done that before. Yeah, yeah, I’ve done some that have been like old movie theaters and. Yeah yeah, it’s one of those you know, two levels balcony. And yeah that I normally like, at least the similar ones I’ve always loved, Like it’s you can hear a pin drop, Like it’s like when it’s it’s not like a there’s a bar in the back and there’s noise, it’s like, really everybody’s focused, and I love that. Does it make you change up what you might do if you were in a smaller club you have to work harder to play the back of the room.
Not really. I I the big bigger venues when they are shaped and like formed good, they are even better. Like sometimes a bar type of comedy club to have a show can be like that’s what comedians I used to and that’s what we like do all the time. So then theater might feel like overwhelming. But I’ve kind of I think I just realized years ago that like it’s just it’s just just play like you normally do, and just if you don’t see the back road, then perform to the front.
Row just sometimes look into the darkness because you know people are there. But yeah, I actually I do like I think a size like that is like really. Perfect, perfect for comedy. That’s like a thousand seeds. So I just did my biggest show ever was eight eight, seven hundred sixty five people in Finland, which is actually the exact the amount of hours in one year.
That was crazy the amount of tickets I saw. That was the record of comedy like standby comedy tickets in Finland ever, and it was exactly the amount of hours in a year. That’s like a really weird go is this? But anyway, that was like really awesome, Like I haven’t done like a long set to a big crowd like that before, and. That was in Finland.
I do some songs too, and those songs were like I was I felt I was actually singing. Well, that was so awesome. Yeah, I saw your dambling in the music. Do you play an instrument? Are you the singer or how is that manifesting?
I play guitar. I’m like I wanted to be a musician before comedian.
And then like in Finland, I’ve always done like these parody songs and I ofte…
Done those in English yet. I don’t know. I don’t know when I’m gonna do that. I don’t trouble with the guitar in outside of Finland, so I just I haven’t done. It yet in English.
But let’s see. I’m working on some songs here, but I don’t know yet. It’s so interesting. There’s an old saying that the comedians want to be actors, the actors want to be singers, and the singers want to be comedians, and you tend to see a lot of that. I guess I can see the relatively straightforward from performing into a microphone is similar to performing into a microphone in front of a crowd, So I guess that makes sense to it.
Yeah, there’s definitely like I’m sure like many comedians, well many comedians want to be musicians too, and also actors for sure, and then lots of actors and musicians want to be comedians. So yeah, it’s a good like. And because we are actually making this great music producer friend, and we’re doing some like songs, like also working on some like actual songs. I’m going to do a band that’s like not even called ism or anything. It’s just like a separate thing.
And it’s some of the songs are funny, but some are not. But so I’ve always kind of wanted to do music, and I’m doing it now a little bit more. And there was this big insight we were talking about, like musicians have to be a little naive and cheesy because they have to be like excited about like a song. But comedians are the opposite. We are like cynical and sarcastic and we’re like yeah again of like we’re just making fun of things, not taking anything seriously.
But musicians have to be like so emotional about a song. And it’s really hard to go on that. So and I think comedians would benefit to try to like emulate musicians, and musicians would benefit to emulate comedians a bit, like because you have to be like more naive as a musician, and in comedy comedy it’s like kind of the opposite. And the crazy thing, as you know, is if you were a musician, you could just close your show with the ass bit for the next forty years instead of oh yeah, we know that one already. What do you what else you got, mister funny.
Man, Yeah, yeah, I haven’t told the ass bit in years because like everybody who comes to my show has definitely seen it. So it’s like, yeah, is that true with a festival crowd, like so, I you know, I get if you’re touring, we’re going to see you. But I find sometimes at festivals it’s who’s playing on the night we feel like going out. Yeah that’s like yeah, yeah, so that’s definitely I’m sure whatever show I do, there could be a few people who haven’t heard it.
And then if it’s like a if I’m just doing a club spot or a festival spot or s…
But it’s still like that Jo had a good run. So I just don’t even remember how to tell you anymore. But that’s the thing also with with I guess some mutuners to get sick off their heat. So, but comedians definitely like telling the same joke over. I know there’s some comedians who have told the same joke for thirty years.
I don’t get how they get excited about that, because like, I think that the greatest comedy as they have a new set almost if not every year, every other years, like it’s just like we want to. I still believe that the best jokes I’ve done I haven’t done yet, Like I haven’t written my best jokes yet, so I’m always like aiming for something new. So you’ve been very generous with your time. I want to be respectful to you and the people who put this together. SA ask you one more and then I’ll let you go.
But this has been great. What’s the long term dream? You know? Back in the day, it may have been, Oh, I want to host a talk show at eleven thirty? Do you want an NBC sitcom?
Do you want to be George Carlin? Or where do you want this whole career to take you? If I have to choose between Carlyn and sitcom, I’ll definitely do Carlin. But now it’s yeah, the comedy go yeah. I guess most comedians they wanted to have a talk show or a sitcom or and then what’s the other option?
Well, specials of course and stuff. But now it’s be more like podcasts and online presence and all that stuff, And it’s changing and I’m kind of trying to find some new things also, like what like I’m kind of I haven’t really locked a goal because the world is changing so fast that I think the biggest thing might for me might be some art form that hasn’t been invented yet. So I’m really trying to be open. I’m not gonna lock anything down. So now I’m actually the most excited.
I’m like experimenting on stuff. Like we for example, when we started to shoot these sketchies, we don’t want to see them as ketches. We want to see them as movie scenes and make them look like a movie scene and then eventually they will turn into a movie maybe or some of them. And like just and even even like the short form is just so powerful now that you don’t even have to have a movie, Like you can do just movie scenes without a whole movie, and you can do you can I started to do a fake podcast first, like a podcast clips that is the real podcast is no, but that’s just clips.
And now we’re actually starting to do a real podcast.
But we were like practicing with just clips and stuff. So just experimenting on lots of different stuff. So I’m not really like, I don’t I’ve never really had a solid goal. I’ve I was going to be a physics teacher. I didn’t even want that, but like I just I ended up being a comedian, and then I ended up moving to America.
I didn’t plan to move here, Like it’s things just happened. So I’m just trying to be as open as possible for new things and just do whatever is the thing that really calls me at the moment. And the great thing is that now I have this great guy with videos, this Finnish guy who is also a music producer, but he’s the best video guy ever. And whenever we have an idea, we just shoot it right away. And that’s kind of a that’s kind of a new new We’re just like, yeah, we’ve been doing lots of new stuff, and we’ve been doing this whole week.
We’re gonna just shoot like new content that we’ve never done before. And so it’s just like and like I kind of decided a while ago that I never want to pitch again. I don’t want to go to a TV network and try to pitch a show. I just want to do it and then do a little bit of it and see if it takes off or not, and then do the next one. Like it’s just there’s no read to pitch anymore because you can just put everything out there anyway.
And I think that’s how Tom Segura sold his Bad THOUGHTSCT show. You know, he had enough in with Netflix that they gave him some rope, but I think he just started filming these on his own as proof of concept. Oh yeah, yeah, I’m sure that. Yeah, because that’s like, really that’s something that the only thing good about if somebody buys a show, you actually have to do it. But then because then if you just it’s if it’s up to me, I might not end up doing it.
But now at least I have a team big enough that we are actually going to make it happen. So it’s that’s exciting. There’s like because we had this thing about like whenever we come up with something, we’ll do it right away, and then just two days ago in actually let’s first do it and then come up with it so we can even just so just do whatever and do it right away. I’ll let you go. I hope we can do this again sometime in the future.
You were fantastic. Thank you for ch well, thanks for having medal. This is great, boy, wasn’t he great? I asked for fifteen minutes and I hit thirty five minutes raw. We talked a little before and after.
Boy, he was super awesome. He’s one of my favorites. There’s a recent Netflix special up two from the eight hundred Pound Gorilla. I watched that one recently. Highly recommend that as well.
He’s ISMAO. I’m Johnny Mack. I’ll see you guys tomorrow.