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The Shark Deck. I’m Jenny Mack with your Daily Comedy News. The Denver Post asked, is TikTok focused crowd work ruining stand up comedy? Yes, and that’s your comedy news for you. No, I’m kidding.
I have more to say about that, but the short answer. Yes. There was a discussion at the High Plains Comedy Festival. Karen Watchell is the festival’s executive producer. She told the Post crowd work is something some comedians do very well and even based entire tours slash careers on.
But as comics have felt more pressure to build their online presences, crowd work seems to be a necessary piece, sometimes evil, even for comedians who have mostly avoided CrowdWork in their natural style. I have a pet peeve for you. I’m sure if you’ve been on YouTube, you see comedian Destroys Hitler and there’s it’s just like I guess, I guess. Sam Talent said, it has ruined talking to the crowd. Now everyone thinks you’re trying to get a viral clip, and that translates to either people giving you propostress answers to any kind of interaction answers they think will help the comedian, or even worse, answers they think are funny.
Our phones are ruining our memories. Jane Burns says she’s come around the crowd work as it’s gain traction online. She said, lately, I asked for moms. Then I ask motherhood related questions that are not too broad, so I can leave that interaction and easily jump back into my set. The Dinver Post points out comedians who avoid crowd work are often afraid it will devolve into a messy back and forth and which audiences start to think they’re the ones telling the jokes.
Nathan Lund said it can derail the set, can make someone think they should continue to interact after I’ve moved on, which can be awkward. If the crowd members drunk, it can get annoying to be interrupted, and then I have to shut them down. That can destroy momentum or create tension. Now let me jump in here. I’m gonna throw out some names.
Remember George Carlin’s crowd work. Remember Richard Pryor’s crowd work, Mitch Hedberg’s crowd work, Sam Kinison’s crowd work, Jeff Foxworthy’s crowd work, Bill Burr’s crowd work. Gary Goldman’s crowd work. You get the point, yeah, Dave Chappelle’s crowd work right, yes. Comedian Destroys Hicklerer Stop Josh Blue said, my general instinct is to go right at someone heckling or causing a problem.
If you make yourself a nuisance, I’m going to come right for you and verbally eviscerate you. Each case is so different that there’s not one answer for every situation, but for the most part, seek and destroy good stuff too much with the crowd work From The Guardian. Comedian Kate Smurthweight posted a video titled brand Awareness, and she said the allegations against Russell Brand were quote nowhere near scratching the surface. Continuing to quote her, I could probably, personally from my own experience, name fifteen to twenty people who have behaved inappropriately with me, and if I then included other women in comedy and the stories that they’ve told me, we could easily get that to one hundred to one hundred and fifty. There are so many others, and I know some people will say, well, tell us the other names, but no, I’ve done it before.
I’ve described these incidents, and people don’t hear me. They don’t believe me. They say, that’s a very serious allegation. I hope you’ve taken it to the police, and ultimately I lose work and I can’t do that over and over again. Hazel O’Keefe is a comedy promoter who founded Laughing Cow’s Comedy.
Hazel says that was a response to asking comedy bookers and promoters why there was never more than one female on the bill and their response, now time out. You know, sometimes you hear while there aren’t a lot of women comedians, or women aren’t funny. None of that was this answer. This answer was I wouldn’t take that risk. Wow.
O’Keefe said. A lot has changed since then when she founded Laughing Cows in nineteen ninety eight, but we’re still nowhere near where we need to be. The nature of the live comedy industry means that comics are often working in isolation and under extremely sexist environments. Professional interactions are often sexualized, but it’s often very difficult report due to power dynamics and the risk of losing work and being further isolated from the comedy scene. Vulture spoke with Gary Gulman, Maria Bamford and a partner and Unsurela altogether.
They all put out books recently and a very interesting discussion. Bamford said, I don’t know if you guys had this when a famous person texts you and says, can you do this thing? And there’s no mention of money, and you go what. I just find it ongoingly bizarre. I find it very interesting, not only in comedy but in the world where just like people don’t pay people a living wage.
Goldman said, I do think sometimes where the celebrity invites you and never mentions pay, then I’m looking back on it and I’m like, oh, but I did get the opportunity to be snubbed by Adam Driver in the green room, and Bill Murray took a picture with my wife, So was that worth it? I don’t know. I just feel terrible about myself. You watched my show and now you’re snubbing me. Sounds pretty uncool.
Adam Driver. I’ve met Gary a few times. If he’s calling out Adam Driver specifically, I’m inclined to think that actually happened. Barnes said, I did a show recently. The famous person asked me too.
There was no mention of money, and I think. For months, I was so mad about it and was like, he has so much money, why didn’t he just pay us? Then months later I saw it was for charity, but nobody tell me Bamford. Here’s my argument. Even if it is for charity, if it’s produced by somebody who has a ton of money, pay the performers, especially if it’s not going to be combat performance, which is what benefits always are.
Where people are in a hostage situation for three hours and suddenly you find yourself trapped watching a dance on behalf of Parkinson’s Stop, let’s stop it. It’s a gig. It’s legitimate work. Bamford. When somebody says something’s a benefit, I just go.
I’d like to give money instead. Tracy Morgan told the Press Enterprise the other day someone asked him if he would go into space? Well would he? Tracy said? Why would I go to space?
Why would I want to go down to the ocean into submarine? Why would I want to go see the Titanic? Do you know how many people died on the Titanic. There are people who like go to graveyards at picnic. Why do you want to lunch with dead people?
You’re a weirdo. It is the final day of Just for Laughs, Toronto. I’m going to miss this one. I like this here Tonight show seven o’clock, River Butcher, Second City, Colin Quinn at seven, Rory Scoville, Katherine Cohen. Good, line up there.
At eight o’clock, I Love Toronto. Jess Tom’s Less Lonely Beer, Beer Comedy, Saturday Night Satire, mart There Chavez in concert, Best of Absolute Comedy, and Andrew Schultz at eight. Johnny, you’re gonna pick Andrew Schultz. You just did five minutes hating on crowd work. I know, right, hypocrite time.
We’ll see what John picks in a minute. Nine o’clock Joey On, Nicole Johnson, Robbie Hoffman, Colin Quinn. Oh good, that’s going to free up one of my decisions. At seven at Sydney Washington. Nine thirty Joanne McNally, Marlon Wayne’s ten o’clock Saturday Night Sets Hire, one of those double threats, This one with Mattie Kelly and Charles Haycock, Second City Again, ten thirty, Best of Absolute Comedy.
Off the Clock with Tamara Chavan and Bria Hibert. Eleven o’clock a late night surprise and Robbie Hoffman. All right, what should we do tonight? Seven o’clock Rory Scovell. Haven’t seen Rory.
At eight o’clock Andrew Schultz, John, you did five minutes about hating on crowd work, and now we’re going to see Andrew Schultz. Yep, can I tell you? I don’t know. I feel like Schultz is really good at working the crowd. But I feel like he’s working the crowd and not just doing it to go viral, if you know what I mean.
I don’t feel like he’s doing just commu destroy Chuckler. I feel like that’s work to his I don’t know. I know it when I see it. Andrew Schultz. Very funny.
Let’s go there at nine o’clock, Colin Quinn. At ten o’clock, when do Saturday Night sat Sire see Canada’s honest comics at Toronto’s coolest indie comedy Club. They’ll post the comedians that day. All right, Yeah, we could do that. That might be a bit of a come down after we just saw some pretty heavy hitters.
And then eleven o’clock. I’ll stay up late with this since it’s the last night let’s find out what late night surprise winds up being. And that is your comedy needs for today. Tell a friend about the show. He’d be like, Hey, there’s this guy and he went on and on about crowd work and then he told us to go to a crowd work show.
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