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Callarogas shock Media. This is the Jimmy Kimmel related bonus episode for Monday, September twenty second. The normal Monday episode is earlier in the feed. Hello, I’m Johnny Mack. President Trump was on Fox Sunday briefing.

The President was framed on the left side of your television. On the right side, host Peter Doocey in between them a framed photograph on the wall. I guess in the White House of President George Washington. If you’re not familiar with Peter Doocey, he is the son of longtime Fox host Steve Doocey. Peter is thirty eight years old and you may know him as the Fox Senior White House correspondent.

President Trump had this to say. When I look at Jimmy Kimmel, he had no talent. He had no talent. He was a crazy I don’t know if you remember, I did a truth before he gave out the Best Picture Award in the Academy Awards. He hosted it.

He did a terrible jam. I said, what a terrible job he did. He’s the worst host in Academy history. And this was during the show and he saw it and just before the climax of the Hoshel like best Picture or Best Actor, whatever it was. He read my truth saying about how bad he was, and then I dispute this.

It was the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. His wife was begging him not to do it, his agent was begging him not to do it. There’s something wrong with the guy. When I look at Fallon, he’s the most insecure looking person I’ve ever seen on television. And the other one, Colbert, who just got canceled, as you know, just terrible.

And it’s a hundred to think of this. It’s one hundred percent bad about Trump. They don’t say anything even conservatives. Somebody said they I think in two years, two or three of them, or maybe all three of them, they never even spoke to a Republican or conservative. It’s one of the reasons they do so badly, because they don’t realize what’s happening.

But when you look at these shows, and when you look at how untalented they are, I could get people off the street to do a better job than Colbert. He’s terrible. He’s terrible, and it’s not because he says bad things. I don’t watch it purposely. I don’t watch it, but I don’t find it enjoyable.

I don’t find him good. I don’t find any of the three. I could get people off the street right now, you and I could walk outside of the beautiful White House, walk down the street. I could look at some people and they would do better in ratings, and they would have more talent than any of those three good. It was a busy weekend for the president.

He attended the memorial service for Charlie Kirk on Sunday. During his speech at the memorial service for the assassinated Charlie Kirk, the President of the United States had this to say. Over the last eleven days, we have heard stories of commentators, influencers, and others in our society who greeted his assassination with sick approval, excuses, or even jubilation. You’ve heard that, though if I couldn’t believe it. You know the names.

They’re major losers by the way they’ll be that will be proven out in a short period of time. Some of the very people who call you a hater for using the wrong pronoun were filled with lee at the killing of a father with two beautiful young children, and the same commentators who this week are screaming fascism over canceled late night TV show where the anchor had no talent and no ratings. Last week, we’re implying that Charlie Kirk deserved what happened to him. No side in American politics as a monopoly undisturbed or misguided people. But there’s one part of our political community which believes they have a monopoly on truth, goodness, and virtue and concludes they have also a monopoly on power, thought and speech.

Well, that’s not happening anymore. We’ve turned that corner very quickly. On the flight home from the memorial for Charlie Kirk, the President of the United States said this aboard Air Force One. First of all, he said a terrible thing about Charlie, but he also suffers. From the back.

He’s got no talent and he’s got no ratings, a deadly combination.

Also, I believe that this is from Air Force One on September eighteenth.

The President is on a plane during this, so I’m assuming it’s Air Force One. But the President had this to say. When you have a. Network and you have evening shows and all they do is it Trump that’s all they do. If you go back, I can say I haven’t had a conservative going in years or something somebody said.

But when you go back and kick a look, all they do. Is a trump the license we’ve been allowed. To do that. They’re an arm of the Democrat parties. Thanks everybody.

Senator Ran Paul, a Republican from Kentucky, said that FCC chair Brendan Carr’s comments threatening to take action against Disney last week were quotes absolutely inappropriate. Republican Senator Ran Paul said, Brendan Carr’s got no business weighing in on this, but people have to also realize the despicable comments. You have the right to say them, but you don’t have the right to employment. John Oliver on his show Sunday Night, went in deep about this. I went to pull the clips, but you know how Oliver does this thing.

He’ll make a point, then he’ll tell a joke, then I’ll play a clip. And I started to pull it, and it was just going to be way more efficient if I just tell you the words that John Oliver himself said. Oliver on last week Tonight. A person getting shot is tragic, and a person getting shot for their ideas is horrifying. That is true no matter what those ideas are, and I recognize that for many, especially those who are targets of some of Kirk’s ideas, it’s been hard to stay quiet as they see flags lowered to half staff and claims that he debated things the right way.

But setting all of that aside, it does seem like some are now willing to weaponize Kirk’s death to do things they’ve been wanting to do for years, whether it’s going after liberal groups, trans people, or the remaining critics in the media, and under some shamelessly flimsy pretext, all of which brings us back to Jimmy Kimmel. Oliver then says the comments they got Kimmel in trouble weren’t about Kirk. In fact, Kimmel’s first comments about his murder or a post reading can we just for one day agree that it’s horrible and monstrous to shoot another human on behalf of my family. We send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents, and innocence who fall victim to senseless gun violence. Again, that was a social media post by Jimmy Kimmel.

Oliver says what got Kimmel in trouble was a passing reference on Monday Night. Now, I’ve played that clip several times in the bonus episodes. I won’t do it again, but in my opinion, it is clearly a President Trump joke and not a Charlie Kirk joke. Possibly, perhaps it could have been phrased even more clearly. Now, this next thing from Oliver is interesting.

John said, Weirdly, I was actually a guest on a show that night, and I didn’t even register that comment. That’s only partly because I wasn’t really paying attention, And I’m not alone in that. After Kimmel’s suspension, many struggle to pick up the offensive line out of his monologue, as YouTube is filled with comments under the video like I’m still waiting for the offensive part I have I mentioned in one of these bonus episodes. Somewhere. As I was putting together the show one day last week, I saw a Newsweek article that said something along the lines of people upset about Jimmy kimmel controversial comments, and I clicked on it to put it into the script for the show.

And as I read it, I was like, I thought it was a nothing story, Like I didn’t read and be like, oh wow, this is going to be a thing. And I’ve got a pretty good sense for this is going to be a thing, So I’m with Oliver there. Oliver continued, The point is Kimmel didn’t denigrate Charlie Kirker make light of his killing. The worst thing you could say is that appears have been wrong about the shooter’s ideology, which okay, but he was pointing out that many on the right seemed desperate to weaponize Kirk’s death, an argument that’s aged pretty well given you know everything that’s happened to Kimmel since. Oliver then went on to call out Next Star and Sinclair.

Oliver says that when one media reporter asked chairman Carr for a comment, he sent back a smiley emoji and sent a gift of the office to CNN. Oliver said, look, I like the office. Who doesn’t like the Office? Sure I could have done without season eight nine, But if it’s not at a hotel, I’m not kicking it out of bed. That’s it.

I want you to run through your friend list in your head right now and pick out the person most likely to text you from the office. Do you have them in mind, very least favorite friend, right, just be honest. Actually that’s me, Thanks a lot, John Oliver. I am the person who’s gonna do that. They’re the one that invite you to stuff just because you’re afraid no one else will show up.

They’re a third string friend. They’re your backup’s backup. But if you’re thinking there’s nothing wrong with office gifts, I’m afraid that person might be you. Okay, busted more from John Oliver. Not because comedians are important, because we are not.

If the government can force a network to pull a late night show off the air and do so in plain view, it could do a bleap of a lot. Worse. It was fun while it lasted, guys, whatever happened next, let me say now it has been the honor of my life to age like a haunted painting before your very eyes. Which should be clear to everyone at the first Amendment is absolutely critical in this country. That is something even Brendan Carr knows, given that he wants tweeted.

Free speech is the counterweight, it’s the check on government control. This is why censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. Oliver. Then up, he directly addressed Disney CEO, Bob Iiger. Hither Bob, we haven’t met yet, but you probably know me as America’s third favorite Zazu.

That is the character John Oliver voice in The Lion King. Congratulations on recasting that role. By the way, it was a fun thing to learn about that after the fact. Anyway, one day, the history of time we’re living through is going to be written. And when it is, I’m not sure it’s those in this administration who are even going to come off the worst.

Now, don’t get me wrong, they’re going to come off terribly, but history is always gonna remember the cowards who definitely knew better but still let things happen, whether it was for money, convenience, or discomfort. And I know this is something of a tough sell. It could be a bit of anathema to reconverse business leaders, but I will say this, if we’ve learned nothing else from this administration’s second term so far, I don’t think we have. It’s that given the bully or lunch money doesn’t make him go away, It just makes him come back hungrier each time. They’re never going to stop.

At some point, you’re going to have to draw a line. So I’d argue, why not try it right here? And when they come to you with ridiculous demands, picking fights that you know you could win in court, instead of rolling over, why not stand up and use four words they don’t teach you in business school. Not okay, you’re the boss, not whatever you say goes, but instead the only phrase that can genuinely make a week bully go away, and that is f you make me. I know I did a lot of reading there and I try not to do that, but just such a major story there.

We do a couple more things here real quick. At eight forty one am on Monday morning Eastern time, I google the phrase Joe Rogan Kimmel. Nothing came up, and I’ve seen a lot of people talking about, oh, they should just bring back Strike Force five. So let me do some analysis here. This is based on my knowledge and I use chat GPT to help me with a math here, so a quick lesson from Professor Mack here.

Podcasts are sold on what’s called a CPM model. CPM means costs per thousand and for a live read for a host read, say a guy in his basement talking about football betting. You know that kind of thing. It is based off a CPM model. As a podcasting executive, when we model shows usually to start with a basic twenty dollars CPM.

So what that means is, if let’s say this podcast gets one thousand listeners, how much would I charge for an AD. I would charge twenty dollars. If I get, say two thousand listeners, I would charge you two times the twenty dollars CPM. So on AD would cost forty dollars. If I get a million listeners, well, then I’m not doing the show from the basement.

I’m doing the show from the French riviera. But that is not the case, okay. So I asked chat GPT, who got back to me and said, here is the full year model for Strikeforce five, with agents, managers, and lawyers included. I’ll use conservative industry typical math, where agent, manager and lawyer each take their percentage from the same commissionable base. Here are the assumptions.

I’m assuming Strikeforce five would get one million downloads per episode. It’s just a number I made up. It might get a thousand downloads, it might get ten million. But the numbers here based on a million per episode. And I’ve worked on some pretty good shows, A million per episode would be a pretty good number.

Do bigger shows do more than that? Sure? For the CPM. For this, I didn’t use twenty dollars. I used thirty dollars, saying a premium CPM model, saying, oh wow, you’ve got Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel and these other guys.

You know, the Strikeforce five guys. So I charged a thirty dollars CPM. I’m gonna put six live reads host reads per episode, okay, six. I’m gonna have the guys put out fifty two episodes per year, so they’re gonna do an hour a week per year. So the people that sell the ads for you normally will take around a thirty percent.

But for this I used ten percent of the gross, which is a number I’ve seen with some pretty big shows. I’ve seen that first hand, one show doing a deal that gave the commercial seller ten percent of the gross. So let’s use ten percent. Let’s let’s say that the Strikeforce five guys are getting a really good deal here, and we’ll pay their agent ten percent, their manager ten percent, they’re layer five percent. Okay, those are all the assumptions.

Rreshoals at a thirty dollars CPM is one hundred and eighty thousand dollars gross. Will do that fifty two times a year. So in advertising, we’re going to generate nine million, three hundred and sixty thousand dollars, or one hundred and eighty thousand dollars per episode. But don’t forget, there’s five guys. I’ll cut to the chase here, after all the commissions and all the other math my napkin sketch math here, says Jimmy Kimmel.

If he did Strike Force five with the other four guys, Jimmy Kimmel would clear about one point three million dollars a year, roughly around twenty five thousand dollars an episode. The same would be true of the other four hosts. Now one point three million dollars a year for working an hour once a week, where the other four hosts are going to help carry the load. Yeah, that’s pretty good money. It is not sixteen million dollars a year or whatever Kimmel’s making hosting a late night show.

It’s a lot better than Daily Comedy News basement money, I’ll tell you that, but it’s not eleven to thirty five money, and I just went back in after the edit. I just want to clear up. So that’s the number. If Jimmy Caky did Strike Force five, if he did a solo show, he would make around nine million dollars, very very rough math, assuming one million downloads. I saw there’s talk of another protest outside of the Kimmel offices on Monday in Los Angeles.

I’ll cover that if that becomes the news. There’s a petition campaign on move On. As of Sunday afternoon, the petition had cornered around one hundred and fifty four thousand signatures demanding ABC and Disney reinstate Kimmel. These petitions usually mean nothing, and I want to remind the boycotters I’m on team Kimmel in case that isn’t clear. But I want to remind you tonight when you’re like, oh, it’s Monday Night football.

I love Monday Night football. Bucket, ap Man, they’re my pals, the Banning Brothers, all that well, all that airs on ESPN, which is owned by Disney. Who are the people that have kicked Kimmel off the air. So you’re either boycotting or you’re not. I’m fine if you’re not I understand.

I’m going to watch Monday Night football today. I’m still going to watch the Empire strikes back. Perhaps I’m a sellout, perhaps I’m weak. I’m just being honest. You do you, but I just want to tell you.

If you’re boycotting, you got a boycott. You can’t be like, oh, I’m boycotting Disney except Monday Night Football. That’s not a boycott. Then you’re just on my team, which is fine. Pull up next to me on the couch.

That’s your bonus for Monday. Keep checking the feed. I’ve got a few interviews scheduled. I’m not sure whether going to be deployed or not, so just keep checking the feed, and of course back on Tuesday morning with a quote unquote normal episode. See you then,

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Caloroga Shark Media. John marcos Areisi’s news special is terrific. We’ll talk about that in a second. Hi, I’m Johnny Mack with your Daily Comedy News. This is the normal episode for Monday Morning.

I’ll continue to do Kimmel bonuses. There was one yesterday afternoon, and I know in light of the Jimmy Kimmel story, a lot of people are concerned about free speech and government overreached, and again I’ll cover that in bonus episodes. Totally separate topic. This week is the first ever ri Odd Comedy Festival. Let me tell you who’s heading to Saudi Arabia to perform at the Riodd Comedy Festival.

Bill Burr he’ll be there on the twenty sixth. Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee they’re there on the twenty sixth and twenty seventh. Whinney Cummings is there on the twenty sixth. Christa Stefano on the twenty seventh. Dave Chappelle he’s there on the twenty seventh.

The not so canceled Disease I’m Sorry on the twenty eighth, Kevin Hart on September twenty eighth, Mesh Pttel also on the twenty eighth. Jessica Curson September twenty ninth, Elisa Dick on the thirtieth, David galasiast on the first, Omid Jelly on the first, Chris Tucker October second, Jeff Ross the roast Master. He’ll be roasting, I guess at the three Odd Comedy Festival on October second. Russell Peters doing three shows on the second, third, and fourth. Zarna garg is heading over there on October second.

Mark Normand one of your favorite comedians. He’s there on October third. Pete Davidson, who tragically his father was killed on nine to eleven. His father was a New York City firefighter. I don’t know if you know that.

Pete Davidson is performing at the Odd Comedy Festival on October third. Darry Spears on October fifth, Jimmy Carr and Louis C.K. Together on October sixth. You know, if that was in New York City, I’d go see that. That’s a pretty good show.

Jack Whitehall on October seventh, Palestinian American comedian Moa. Mayer on October seventh. Wayne Brady, He’s there October seventh. Were doing some improv. Joe Cooy he’s there on October eight.

Maybe he’s going to make some jokes about Taylor Swift. You don’t know. Sam Murrill’s there October eighth. Dillon was going to be the October eighth, but he was disinvited for some he made some comments on his podcast. Tom Sagora He’s going to be there October eighth.

Andrew Schultz, he’s got a couple podcasts that are political. He’s there on October ninth. Hannibal Burris is there in a ninth. Sebastian Maniscalco is there on the ninth. So you can see what a big comedy festival this is coming to Riodd And by the way, did I promote I’m talking about the old Jimmy Kimmel free speech government depression thing.

I’m doing that as bonus episodes. I forget if I mentioned that at the top. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know what was happening in comedy festivals this week and where all your favorite comedians are heading. Now, I had that in the notes already because I like to let you know what’s happening in comedy festivals. But I saw Jason Zinnemann, friend of the show, wrote in The New York Times.

Starting next week, many of the most popular American stand up stars he mentioned Chappelle, Bill Burn, Kevin Harnt in parentheses, will perform at a huge new festival in riodd hosted by a government not exactly known for its openness to dissent. The optics were never great, but the timing is now especially awkward. The Hollywood Reporter had an article about the most trusted people in media. Some of it was focused on newscasters, but in terms of late night host, Jimmy Fallon is the host who gets most often labeled as the least political of the broadcast. Late Nighters has the highest trust, while John Stewart his trust rating is down a little bit.

Greg Gottfeld saw his credibility rise with Americans since the last time the survey was taken in twenty twenty four. Stephen Colbert’s trust numbers are down seven points. And I think this survey was taken before Jimmy Kimmel was removed from the airwaves. But at the time of the survey, forty eight percent of respondents in the Hollywood Porter Morning Consult poll described Jimmy Kimmel as having quote a very liberal or quote somewhat liberal lean, which was higher than all his other late night contemporaries. Stand Up four Heroes is coming back as part of the New York Comedy Festival.

It’s its nineteenth year. It’ll be November tenth at the David Geffenhall and Lincoln Center. Nice lineup including Mike Birbiglia, Alex Edelman, and Jim Gaffigan. Maybe he’ll try and sell you some bourbon, Tom Poppa, John Stewart and Moore. Stand Up for Heroes has raised one hundred and thirteen million dollars to day to help all veterans and military families have successful futures.

I did get to watch John Marcos Siresi’s new special on YouTube. It is fanastic, like really good. As I was watching it, I was thinking, Wow, the number of jokes per second is just incredible.

And then I remember Dane Cook had a laughs per metric thing that he used to d…

So I’m gonna quote Bob Hope theory, which was tell a joke like every six seconds, and some of them might land. I mean, John Marco is just joke after joke after joke, and so many of them land strongly. The special is really good. I also appreciate and other reviews have pointed out his physicality, and at first I was like, Oh, his physicalities helped selling those jokes. That’s interesting.

And then I took my eyes off the screen. I’m like, Nope, the physicality is just part of the entertainment. But the material is solid, solid, solid, Plus you get the physicality on top a really strong special. Jermark will tell the Post this was a real amalgamation of chunks from my first year, bigger stories that have been fine tuned over the years, and bits from the last six months. Some people are more familiar with my crowd work, and I think they’ll be pleasantly surprised that this is more of a joke special.

Basically, the idea was, if he didn’t know me, this is your intro to my taste, who I am, how I feel, and a good preview of what you’re gonna get if you ever see me live. Some of it got cut, he told the Post, Yeah, it was originally eighty minutes. We cut a lot. We cut a joke that I’ve been doing since my first year that I worried I’d put out too much. It’s about my father.

He’s Italian. We kiss each other goodbye. One day, my room had asked, do you kiss each other in public? And I said, yeah, it’d be weird if I only kissed him in private. That’s a great joke.

My girlfriend, who’s also my manager, is my guiding light into terms of telling me, I think that’s been done in a way that it would feel like an audience member might think I’ve already heard that part, so I left it out. You know. As I was watching the special, I was like, wait, I’ve heard this chunk. Where do I know this chunk from? And I was just confused, And then I realized, Oh, he had done a little bit of this material back in July up at Montreal, and I was like, oh, okay, okay, that’s where I know that from.

John Marcos says, I’m retiring all the material from this special. So right now I’m talking about AI and the ways it feels like AI and robotics have moved past helping human beings. I was just trying to see if I could get him on. I was talking with this publicist. We’re very friendly.

I’m very friendly with that camp. But John Marco’s running around, so this isn’t like one of those like, oh I can’t get to you know whatever comedian. I can’t get to Mark Marron. I would love to get to Mark Marin. I just can’t.

But I was thinking when I was watching it, I’m like, wow, John Marco here is just torching all his material. I was wondering what he had left. So it’s good to hear that answer. Gianmarco Soresi said, I try to paint my dad in a more positive light because I found out he’s been on Ashley Madison and a number of dating apps. Or woman reached out to me and she decided to not date my father partially because of my jokes.

So I had to try and readjust that. So I get a new step Bob. I will do more of that tomorrow. I’m recording this one on Sunday. I normally don’t record on Sunday because everyone’s home and oh my god, right now, both dogs are going at it.

I’ve gone up twice and been like, can you be quiet now? To be fair, this isn’t really a podcast studio. It’s the basement and my family’s allowed to live here. But it’s really hard to focus today, So I’ll save the John Marco stuff people as this thing with Michael Chay, and I’m having trouble understanding the story because the way they wrote it. Their opening paragraph is quoting Michael Chay in a new documentary in Whose Name, and the quote is Michael Chay asking Kanye West, I’m the black comedian that made a joke about Cosby.

That’s fed up? Why do you do that to me? It was backstage at SNL and Kanye West apparently said, you can’t always have every time you have black subject matter like Bill Cosby, that you have to have a black comedian talking about him. He motions to Michael Chay and said, you know what I mean. Kanye claimed he was bullied backstage for his Make America Great Again hat and was told don’t go out there with that hat on.

They bullied me backstage. They bullied me, and then they say, I’m in a sunken place. You want to see that sunken place. I’m going to put my Superman cap on. The documentary then cuts to Cha approaching West backstage, and then Chay says to West, good with me, for real?

That was eft up? So I don’t really understand what’s going on there. I guess i’d have to watch it. On Friday. I shared that thing with Guy Brainam on the airplane while TMZ says, guy says he’s going to bring the man to court.

TMZ happened to be at the airport when Guy Braindam got off a plane. The photographer asked Guy Branham about it. TMZ says, guys show them a bruise from the alleged elbow swing and said he’s going to file a police report and a lawsuit, telling the man you can’t hit somebody because you think they’re fat. Guy says Delta Airlines has called him back to talk about what happened. TMC says guy travels a lot for work and has some Delta status himself.

I want to know how he went up in a middle seat. I mean, it’s not that hard to not get in a middle seat, especially if you’re willing to spend a little money. I don’t know. Hey, here’s a shocker. Johnny Mack remembered to do the Toronto Comedy Festival today.

I almost forgot I’d started to go into the Steve Harvey story, which is the next thing in my script, and then I was like, oh, why don’t you actually do Toronto for one? So you have to get Johnny macbot out for the third day to row. Let’s see what’s happening in Toronto today. David Lynch’s Seinfeld at eight o’clock. What is this?

This sounds amazing. Now I have to actually google this. Since the new people took over at JFL, the websites aren’t as good. Just saying, all right, here’s a review from July. David Lynch’s Seinfeld was at the Toronto Fringe and Porton and Pearl reviewed it.

They wrote, imagine an episode of Seinfeld. Now imagine that there’s a frequently tall faceless man called the Tall Man watching Jerry Do stand up from the audience. That’s how David Lynch’s Seinfeld begins, an entirely original episode of Seinfeld with a lynche and twist. All right, that sounds like a lot of fun at eight o’clock, Matt writes Matre Day right Live nine thirty, another David Lynch Seinfeld also at nine thirty Wheel of Comedy, and then at midnight Madness at eleven thirty. So I’d say pretty quiet night, as mondays, tend to be at festivals.

If we were up there, I’d say, well, let’s definitely do Seinfeld at eight, and then I don’t know. We left comedy at nine thirty, Grab a couple of beers, go to bed. Steve Harvey explained why he has quitch stand up comedy, said it’s too hard to do right now. He’s got that nice family feud gig and apparently that’s what Arizon ABC at eleven thirty at night, so he might be pumping out a lot of more episodes soon. Steve said, I left stand up because I had so many shows.

I had built such a catalog of work. I was making money. I had to let something go, and if a tour on the weekends, I wouldn’t even have a family. So I let stand up go because I saw the change coming. You got to react to participate.

So my participation was to get it away from it because the cancel culture started becoming everywhere. Comedy is too hard to do right now, and all you got to do is look at the way cancel culture works. I believe he had said this before Kimmel Gates did it do this one over the weekend. I’ve recorded so many things I can’t remember. Steve Morton had to cancel the shows over the weekend.

He has COVID. He went on social said, dear Virginia Beach and Richmond sad laugh come down with COVID. I can’t possibly do the shows. He deserves some morning and I must cancel tonight and tomorrow. But we were churned under better circumstances.

Steve Morton is eighty years old, and I don’t think that people of Peoria are too happy with Liz Mealy As she released a video on Facebook and YouTube, Liz says she enjoys traveling, and then said she visited Peoria once and that was enough. We don’t need to do that again. If you’re like, hey, Liz, what’s in Peoria? Nothing? There’s nothing.

They had one coffee shop. It was open thirty five minutes and I never woke up in time. They didn’t have Uber. Everybody has a guy with a truck. How do you not have Uber?

I was losing my mind. I’m freaking out. I feels so isolated. I caught my little sister. She’s like described Peoria and I was like, all right, opening scene of Wally, I’m the robot.

Trash is everywhere, no one’s around. Back in November, Shane gillis Head coincidentally said, I was in Peoria, new number one on the power rankings of blanking town in the entire country. Peoria, Illinois was That was hell, dude, Just me and the bums were the only ones outside walking around minus four and Peoria sucks. That was hell. And that is your comedy news on a Monday.

I’m pretty sure there’ll be a Kimmel bonus episode, so I’ll see it a few hours and then back Tuesday with the normal episode to have a good one.

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Caloroga Shark Media. This is the Sunday Jimmy Kimmel bonus episode. The normal episode went out earlier this morning. Hello, I’m Johnny Mack and the ABC would like it to stop complaining. No, not that ABC, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

They say they’re getting complaints about this Jimmy Kimmel thing. It’s not them. Some of the complaints that have gone to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation include one person writing, what you did to Jimmy Kimmel is against the constitution and I will be boycotting ABC. When you bend your niece to the president. You’ve gone too far.

America is not happy with ABC. That’s nice. I will contact and boycott all business that sponsor ABC’s shows. That’s nice. Would you like a vegemite sandwich?

I will never watch ABC again. Free speech is gone. Go Jimmy Kimmel. That’s nice. Put another shrimp on the barbie, will you.

The vast majority of compla sent to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation had expressions of dismay that Jimmy Kimmel show had been pulled off air. Now I know a lot of you are boycotting ABC over this, and I’m on team Kimmel in case that isn’t coming out loud and clear here, But just explain to you the problem with your boycott. Okay, you’re boycotting ABC, right, So you’re boycotting Disney. So you’re not gonna go to the theme parks. Okay, fine, You’re not gonna watch Hulu right because Disney owns Hulu.

So delete your Hulu, delete your Disney Plus all that’s good. Okay. No more Star Wars okay, no more Marvel okay, but here’s where I’m gonna get you. No more Monday Night football, guys. ESPN is owned by Disney, so don’t think you’re watching Joe Buck tomorrow night.

And part of this whole thing ESPN, which is Disney, which is ABC, they’re trying to acquire Red Zone to do a deal with the NFL. So I don’t want you watching Red Zone today. Now, I as a hypocrite, I’m gonna watch Red Zone because I like my football and I’m Scott back in the football pool and the forty nine ers playing the Cardinals at four o’clock, so I’m gonna have Red Zone on. I’m a shill. I’m the worst, but you no Marvel, no Disney, no Star Wars, no Hulu, no ESPN, no Red Zone.

Stay strong. I saw somebody bring up on social media. I forget where I’m stealing this idea from. But if Kimmel doesn’t host a late night show, whereas somebody like Fallon or Colbert, they were comedians, Jimmy is a radio guy who learned the art of the monologue, but he took a different path to the TV chair. So could he just translate his skills into something maybe the same way you know, Jimmy Fallon could just go out on tour, whether or not you find him funny.

We’ll get to that in a second, But I just thought that was an interesting observation that if Jimmy Kimmel’s not a late night talk show host, what does he do? Does he tour as a comedian? I don’t know. Friday Night, remember this whole thing, in part, was that some of the stations were going to air a tribute to Charlie Kirk instead of Jimmy Kimmel’s Friday night show. That never happened.

Well, psych they didn’t air the tribute. Sinclair put out an update on Twitter, saying Tonight Friday night, sint Clair will continue to air ABC Network programming as scheduled in the late night time period. The Charlie Kirk special instead be available on the National News Desk’s YouTube channel during Viewers can continue to enjoy ABC programming while also providing full access to the special online. What are we doing? I thought, what are we even fighting over?

Now you’re not even airing it. ABC aired celebrity Family Feud reruns in case you care this morning on Sunday morning at ten to five Eastern time. I typed the phrase Joe Rogan Kimmel into Google. Nothing new came up in The New York Times. A friend of the show, Jason Zenneman, who I have reached out to.

I think he’s on vacation, but I’m hoping to see if he’s not, if I can get him on here, because I want to talk to him about all this. He also called out Jimmy Fallon. Zenneman quoted Fallon from the monologue the other night when Falan said, to be honest with you, I don’t know what’s going on. No one does, Zennimann wrote, Really, anyone paying attention should have some idea what’s going on, but the temptation to play dumb is surely real. To be fair, Fallen does not portray himself as the kind of man who broods over the responsibilities of the artist in an age of authoritarianism.

He’s never seemed especially interested in politics, but that hasn’t stopped him from becoming entangled in it. He was blamed for helping to usher in the first Trump presidency because he infamously ruffled his hair on The Tonight Show in twenty sixteen. That always struck me as unfair. Trump and here jokes had been a hallmark of popular culture for decades. Fallen was just falling the crowd.

But there have lately been signs that Fallon’s trying to get out of it to avoid attacks on the administration by playing nice and downplaying political comedy, working both sides of the aisle. A recent Tonight Show guest was Greg Guttfeld skipping ahead, Jason writes, as I watched comedians navigate this thorny moment, I’ve been thinking about parallels from the recent past. That hasn’t led me to any American late night controversies, but it did immediately bring to mind a trip to Moscow for one of the first articles I Jason sidim Road for The Times. It was a two thousand and three feature about a spate of Russian artists introducing American musicals to their country for the first time since the fall of the Soviet Union.

And then Jason has a whole section there about what’s going on over there and…

They point out Steve Allen regularly poked fund at political figures in his opening monologues, but in a measured, self deprecating style that was typical of the era. It wasn’t until Carson took over in sixty two that The Tonight Show transformed into a cultural institution where politics was mined for nightly material. Carson resorted to impersonations and satire to highlight the human inconsistencies within politics, and borrowed from Aban Costello’s Who’s On First to parody Reagan’s hetorical double speech. It wasn’t until the nineties, when Carson was heading for retirement and the competition for his crown and ratings was growing more intense that he began to see presidential hopefuls pursuing late night appearances. On Late Nighter Bill, Carter points out that ABC has an import possible choice.

He writes, Jimmy Kimmel does work for ABC and has for two decades. He has been literally the face of that network for some time now as host of the Oscars and other ABC properties like Millionaire. By the way, I had in my notes Mark Maron was supposed to be on Millionaire this week. I mean, it’s already in the can. Is that going to air?

Curter right, Surely ABC would value this vital talent, But now what ABC of course, realizes that Trump in FCC chairperson car will make good on the threat, which Carr stated openly and without any regret about his unabashed abusive power in undermining the Bill of Rights, using terms Tony Soprano would have loved. We could do this the easy way or the hard way, rights Bill Carter. If ABC decides to stand by Kimmel, the hard way may be financially excruciating. Carter points out Sinclaire Broadcasting, but out of statement that they’re not going to carry Kimmel shown no matter what. Even if ABC brings back Carter rights that would seem to leave ABC a little leverage to stave off canceling Kimmel, though that would widely be seen as the most craven capitulation yet to an unjustifiable act of government intimidation.

ABC Disney is in a brutal situation. The administration can inflict enormous damage to its bottom line. If the company defies, it will have to weigh that against the value in defending the principle that the American government has no business dictating who gets to talk on television late night or an incredible resource during these times. You should absolutely check that out, and that is your bonus episode on a Sunday morning. Back tomorrow morning with the normal episode, and I’ve got a lot to say at the beginning of tomorrow’s episodes to make sure you check that out.

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hey am Johnny Mack. This is the normal Sunday morning episode. There was a bonus Jimmy Kimmel episode around three p thirty Saturday afternoon. There will be a bonus episode around noon today on Sunday.

We’ll cover some other topics in this episode. Although Tim Dillon on his podcast did chime in about Jimmy Kimmel. But it’s not why I’m leaning off with Dylan. Stay for it. But first Dylan said it’s wrong to pretend it’s because Kimmel’s show sucked or was losing eyeballs or money, both true, as Tim Dylan clearly it was a politically motivated hit job.

Also, this morning, I was fired from the riodd At Comedy Festival because of the comments on my podcast. I had pulled the audio. But Tim, you know, he’s got an hour to kill, so he told the story very slowly, so I thought it would just be more efficient if I just tell you what he said. Now. Pay attention here because the locations can get quite confusing.

I am quoting from the Apple podcast transcript of Tim Dillon’s program that he published on Saturday, episode four sixty two. The transcript reads I was supposed to perform in Dubai. I mixed up Dubai and I said, Abu Dhabi. Apparently this is a big deal over there. This is like a real problem.

My agent called me and he goes, you said on Joe Rogan that you were performing in Abu Dhabi and you’re actually performing in Dubai. There’s cities and they have a rivalry. And I go, dude, who gives a bleep? I made a mistake. This is not a Malicia slander.

It’s a mistake. And he goes, well, they’re very angry and they sent an email that you need to be controlled. I said, well, good luck whatever. I don’t have to do it. I don’t care.

And he called me a few days later, and I thought he was gonna talk about the Kimmel thing. But he called me and said, they heard what you said about them having slaves.

And then Tim, as I read, it looks like he went into a bit.

Anyway, Tim Dillon will not be performing at the Riad Comedy Festival. We’ll get it into that tomorrow, a headline making the news. Now. I am recording this on Saturday afternoon. At this moment, I have not seen Joe Rogan way in on Jimmy Kimmel.

But what he’s making the rounds in the media is Joe Rogan saying he’s not a Republican. This is from his interview with Jordan Jensen. Now that was published. Let me just pull out my phone. Now.

That episode was published on September seventeenth at one pm Eastern Time, according to the Apple podcast app. I believe it was recorded earlier when Jordan’s special was coming out. I remember reading a story, I think, on this podcast that Jordan was going to be on The Rogan Show. So I don’t think this was recorded this week. Again, I was in the studio.

Maybe they went back to tape another segment. Maybe there’s two Jordan Jensen recordings. I don’t know, but I’m just I want to give Rogan the benefit of the doubt here that I think this was said before any of the Kimmel stuff came out. Jordan Jensen asked Joe Rogan, weren’t you like a Bernie Brow. Rogan said, I’ve only voted Republican once in my life.

The idea that you have to be a Republican to get into that club, meaning his comedy club, is so ridiculous. That club is filled with gay people, black people, straight people, white people, Asian and nobody gives an f You’re just doing comedy. Rogan mentioned he has had dinner with conservatives such as Tucker Carlson. Jordan Jensen asked if he was a Bernie bro Bernie Sanders is a notable Democrat. Rogan said, Look, the idea of socialism is wonderful if everybody had their stuff together and everybody was disciplined.

But it’s not the case, and I think that human nature unfortunately, You’re gonna need some socialism though, Right, you’re gonna need the fire department. Like this is one of the things I point to all the time people say, oh, socialism doesn’t work. The fire department is an entirely socialist idea, Like we all pay in wit and they take care of everybody’s fire. Right, you can’t have only the rich people have a fire department, then the poor people their house burns down all the time. That’s crazy, right, we all agree to that.

Rogan suggested we apply that logic to healthcare, saying, are we effing community or are we not? And if we’re a community, you have to take care of the downtrodden, and you have to do it because it’s bad for them and it’s also bad for you. We’re all in this together, so you have a social safety net. I believe in all that, but I also believe you just can’t give people free money because then they rely on it and they’ve become dependent on it, and then it takes away they’re ambition, then they don’t do anything. That’s true too, that doesn’t mean you’re not compassionate.

I don’t like either one of these parties, said Joe Rogan. I don’t think there’s a solution that’s correct. I think you have overcorrection after overcorrection. I think the country goes one way and then it swings hard the other way. Everyone is so tribal, everyone’s so locked into their idea that they’re the good guys, they’re the bad guys.

I’m gonna jump in here because it’s been a very political week. And the show is called Daily Comedy News because when I started it seven years ago, I was just doing leftover stories from my show on Live One, which is called the Weekly Comedy Thing, and I had leftover stories and I just call this Daily Comedy News because you know, like everything it evolves over time, and the universal design was you know, hey, Jerry Seinfeld’s on tour. Here’s some information. I’m trying the best I can to stay out of politics. I think if you listen hard enough to my intonations and my pauses, you might be able to possibly, perhaps maybe glean onto some of my opinions.

But I also know you don’t come here for politics, and I’m not trying to chase anyone away. I have in the past and I will continue to say. I think comedy is an effective way to comment on current events and politics. Even the Kings head core jesters, and often the jesters had somewhat free rain to make fun of the King. This point being this is a commentary show, and sometimes I do parody and sometimes I exaggerate things for bits.

I always explaining to people, let me just drop the act for a second. Does John McDermott like Adam Sandler comedies? No? Do I ramp it up as Johnny Mack for the bit? Yes, obviously, and I hope you pick up on that.

Do I put down the microphone and walk around the house all day going I can’t believe Adam Sailor made a movie called jacket, Chill Kirk. I don’t. I don’t. I’m sorry if I ruined the bit. So I am commenting on things, and I am doing parody on things, and you know, in some form of this show is about comedy.

So don’t take this as the news. I guess, much like John Stewart says, the daily shows not the news, this show isn’t the news either. I’m commenting on the news now when I’m telling you who’s playing at a comedy festival. Oh, I better remember to put that in today’s scripts. I don’t have to get the bought out again.

You know that’s clearly news. But some of these things are commentary. David Letterman had a lot to say the other day. One thing I haven’t been able to share with you the other day was his opinion on the New York Times and the Washington Post. Here’s what David Letterman had to say.

These two standards of journalism in the United States, the Post and the Times. And one could think, okay, these will stabilize. These are people who represent the truth, and if they get it wrong, they apologize and we’ll make changes.

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And now one has gone.

I have family members who live in the Washington, DC area, and you’re lucky if you get the crossword and weather, you know, out of the Washington Post. And speaking of Adam Sandler from the Carolinian review you from the other day, they right, My dad and I bonded watching Sandlor films like Happy Gilmour and Mister Deed’s I’m Sorry. My mom and I love Sandler’s rom coms such as Fifty First Dates and The Wedding Singer. I’m on team Mom there because those are two of the five good Adam Sandler movies. Which are those two uncut gems Basketball Movie, Space Alien Movie.

Those are the only five good Adam Sandler movies. We all know this well established. On this program, the writer says, my family pretty much snuck in Sandlor movie lines into every conversation. I guess you could say Adam Sandler was part of the family. So you can imagine my excitement when my boyfriend surprised me with Adam Sandlor tickets.

They sat at the top of the arena. I look down at all the people dressed in their best Sandler at sire, mostly basketball shorts and a baggy shirt or an orange jersey straight out of the water. Boy, I will make it a point to say I’d never seen Sandler stand up aside from the skits and bits he did on SNL. I was walking into a whole New sailor experience I’d never witnessed before. I’m sorry, I hope this went okay for you.

The show began with a variety of stand up openers, including Rob Schneider and Kevin Nalan. Most of Sandler’s openers joked about their lives as sixty year old men with wives and kids. Although I was not the target audience for that core material, I thought many of the jokes were funny and they did not diminish my excitement for the evening. Finally, Sandler came out in black jogger pants and a worn out green sweatshirt. Sandler’s routine consisted of his complaints about getting older and conversations he would have with his wife and teenage daughters.

And you know, his teenage daughters, two of the up and coming actresses in Hollywood. They got a lot of work. You know, a lot of times they’re Sandler films, but their up and comers. No NAPO babies there, uh uh no, no, no, oh no. She writes periodically Sandlor would burst into song I’m so sorry, discussing topics such as socks being too tight and a hypothetical grandma being on ozepic live and in person, I realized that Sandler’s stand up was slightly different from the family man he plays in films.

His comedy was uniquely his turned up to eleven. In the third act, Sandler strummed his guitar, singing along with the audience I’m sorry. That’s the part I never got from, like his HBO special, I think ed at some point, I remember million years ago watching a Sandler concert and he’s doing these dumb songs and the audience is acting like at Springsteen, and I’m like, what is even happening here? My boyfriend and I raced to the car after the show. My boyfriend and I raced to the car and discuss our experience with Sandler’s performance.

I thought some songs dragged on for too long, and not much of the comment I could relate to. But I enjoyed the lively experience. Nonetheless, Hi, it’s Johnny macbot again. You can tell he’s distracted by this Kimmel stuff because he forgot to put jfl Toronto in the script two days in a row. Today at four thirty, it’s the wonderfully titled Age against the Machine, The Old Faces of Comedy.

Six o’clock, Big Jay Okerson at seven, Sarah Milkin again.

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Also at seven, the ever so serious Harry Conde Bolu.

I hope I said that right, since I’m an Ai. At seven Dakota ray Hebbert and I may or may not have said her name right, but there has been good buzz on her. At eight thirty, Big Jay again. At nine, the ever so serious Horry again. Now back to human John.

But let’s not act like he doesn’t get names wrong all the time. Boy, my football better be good today. I am behind a friend of the show, Scott Beckett, who wrote me into this football pool. And I got to tell you, when you’re behind Scott Beckett the football pool, you’re having a bad day. You see how I’m doing coming into today’s games?

Well, I got Thursday night’s game wrong. Nice job not covering Buffalo Bills. Thanks some. I’m already in last place this week. How we doing overall?

Johnny Mack fifty sixth out of fifty nine, and that’s Scott Beckett. Guy’s in forty fifth. I will catch you, Scott Beckett. We have many weeks left speaking of football. See how I set that up.

Jeremy Piven spoke to Patriots Wire. You’re home for comedy news. Jeremy Piven said, I just remember Tom Brady. He’s one of those guys where you can just tell from being around him different variables as to why he was so insanely successful. He’s a guy who looks you in the eye.

He knows everybody’s name. You could tell that you want to go to battle for a guy like that. It’s a variable that made him so great. Jeremy Piven suggested Tom Brady was an inspiration if you work your butt off and you do five to eight comedy shows a week, a couple hundred shows a year, and like my mother who quoted Shakespeare when he said, the readiness is all. If you’re ready, then you can be present and have a great time.

It’s really the mixed martial arts of any arena in the way that you gotta be ready. You gotta be ready for whatever’s thrown at you. If there’s a heckler, you got to call an audible. Vivin was playing Boston and said in honor of Boston. Tom Brady, He’s now kind of opened up about what his process was, and he understood that he needed to study the defense.

So they knew it at any moment, the way a linebacker was favoring his waister, a dB or a corner, he knew them inside. Now, no one really worked harder to start. He Tendancy’s Brady wasn’t the most physical, and he wasn’t just prepared, he was ready. I think if you grind and you work your ass off, then you can have fun. Gronk was a lunatic.

He’s like the people’s champ. Like if you look up on set and you’re like, where’s Gronk? He suddenly got a hairnut on. He’s serving soup to the extras and you’re like, what in God’s name is going on with him? He’s drinking adult beverages, losing his mind, and I have to go pick up my son at the train.

So that’s the end of today’s episode. Now, last time I went to this very train station, Jimmy Kimmel lost his gig, So I’m kind of afraid to go to the train station. All kinds of horrible comedy news could happen while I leave my basement for just fifteen minutes. But if something does happen, I promise to you I will do a bonus episode, speaking of which I’ll be back in a few hours with a bonus episode a Mount Jimmy Gimmel see and then

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hello, this is the Saturday Afternoon Bonus episode about Jimmy Kimmel. The normal Saturday episode is earlier in this feed. And I’m Johnny Mack, and you know it’s a big story if I came inside on this beautiful Saturday afternoon. Oh, it’s so nice.

President Trump went on truth Social and he asked whatever happened to the very highly overrated David Letterman, whose ratings were never very good either. He looks like hell, but at least he knew want to quit loser losers in all caps with three exclamation points. So I took some umbrage with this comment. Whatever you think of David Letterman, perhaps you find him unfunny, perhaps you were disappointed in him when he admitted to some affairs. But I think if we look at David Letterman’s body of work and his current position as an elder statesman, I don’t think loser is a fair description of David Letterman.

But to answer the President’s question, whatever happened to David Letteran, Well, mister President, David was at the Atlantic Fest earlier this week and he had this to say. Well, this is a misery and in the world of somebody who was an authoritarian, maybe a dictatorship. Sooner or later, everyone is going to be touched. But this is me. For thirty years.

I did this for a living, so I see this happen. They took care of Colbert. That was rude, that was inexcusable. The man deserves a great deal of credit. He’s in the Hall of Fame nine times.

And to be manipulated like that because the Ellison family, I didn’t want to trouble Donald Trump with this move, so they got rid of him, not only got rid of him, got rid of the whole franchise. You’re not gonna have to worry about anything, Larry, it’s all gone. It’s fine, good night.

And then my good friend Jimmy Kimmel, you know, I just I feel bad about this …

It’s silly, it’s ridiculous. And you can’t go around firing somebody because you’re fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian, criminal administration in the Oval office. That’s just not how this worked. Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, Bill Clinton, George Bush, the second Barack Obama. Yeah, right, and attack these men mercilessly.

Never once. Well, Jimmy Carter not so much, because what can you say about Jimmy Carter. He was just a sweet guy. But everybody else we really went to work on. And I can remember Bill Clinton, we really went to work on.

And then it got so it was like, whoa, this is a gift. What are we going to do Bill Clinton? He’s out of office after eight years of Bill Clinton.

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And then George Bush came along and it was easy motoring after that.

But the point is beating up on these people, rightly or wrongly, accurately or perhaps inaccurately, in the name of comedy. Not once were we squeezed by anyone from any governmental agency, let alone the dreaded FCC Republican Democrat. Never. Well, I will say we probably went easy on Barack Obama because I kind of like the guy. But never a call from the White House.

Never intimation. No, because everybody sort of understood. In the name of humor, in the name of commenting on what’s going on in the world cultural events, why not. And by the way, the institution of the President of the United States ought to be bigger than a guy doing a talk show. Here’s the thing that’s up my nose these days.

By god, we got to get to work on those midterms. I think the midterm elections will be elections in name only. I’m sorry. The Republicans have raised untold billions of dollars. The Democrats, I think are figgering a bit behind in terms of fundraising.

From People Magazine, a Jimmy Kimmelive employee has said, we’re just hoping that we’re gonna hear something soon, and hopefully it’s good. The employee hopes for some sort of peaceful resolution and says they’re not ready to admit it’s over. We don’t know anything. We’re all on standby. Jimmy and the producers have had to keep this close to the vest.

It was very quick and very shocking. It was a big shock to everybody. CE and N reports that Kimmel’s staff will continue to be paid for the time being. Well, that’s good, at least through next week. There’s a staff of between two hundred and two hundred and fifty individuals.

During the WGA strike in twenty twenty three, Jimmy Kimmel provided funds for his crew while production on the show was haunted when production was shut down during the LA wildfires, Kimmel used his Hollywood backlot as a donation center to collect and distribute resources to those impacted by the disaster. Unclear at this time is what’s going to happen to the Brooklyn broadcast. Jimmy kis was going to do his show pretty soon from Brooklyn. Sources told Rolling Stone that the trucks containing these shows staging were due to leave Los Angeles on Friday in order to make the cross country trek to New York City. One industry insider estimates to relocate the show for five days it costs more than five million dollars.

There were some social media pictures of what appeared to be the Hollywood crew packing up some gears. So we’ll see if Jimmy returns, and if Jimmy returns, will he return in Brooklyn. Codo O’Brien on Twitter wrote, the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel and the promise to silence other late night hosts for criticizing the administration should disturb everyone on the right, left and center. It’s wrong, and anyone with a conscience knows it’s wrong. Tim Dillon on Instagram, Jimmy Kimmel should still be on the air.

It’s wrong to pretend it’s because the show sucked or because it was losing eyeballs and money, both true. Clearly it was a politically motivated hit job. The joke was pretty mild factually wrong, as in, the guy who shot Charlie Maga wasn’t a Maga guy. But who cares? That doesn’t matter.

Anyone who cares about the ability to speak freely for a living should be disturbed by this. They should also be disturbed by people celebrating the assassination of a political opponent, no matter what you thought of his views. I’ll chime in there. I’ve said many times, no one should be murdered. As for the Kimmel joke, I won’t play it again because I played it like four times in the last couple shows, and you go back and grab it there.

I don’t think Kimmel’s words were phrased as sharply as the intention. And as I said on the Letterman podcast the other day, you talking to Mike long enough, you’re gonna go back and wish you had said something more clearly. I do that every single day on this podcast. But if you listen to what Kimmel said, what kim was saying was that the politicians were making clear that the alleged assassin was not a Maga guy. And that’s just what Tim Dillon is saying there.

You’re actually aligned with the words that actually were said by Jimmy Kimmel. I think people were reading into it a suggestion that Kimmel was hinting that the person was a Maga guy, But that’s not what actually You know what, let me play it. I’ll just play the top. Over the weekend with the Magga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and everything they can to score political points from it. So if you want to parse language there, that’s what Jimmy said.

Andrew Schultz on Instagram posted this. It is believed it is in reference to Jimmy Kimmel. Schultz Left Fascism is wrong unless you kill our political opponents, then we’ll celebrate it. Right, cancel culture is wrong unless you cancel the shows of our political opponents, then we’ll celebrate it. The vast majorities of Americans that I speak to are repulsed by this behavior, Yet there’s almost no representation of the sentiment and media independent on mainstream.

How is that possible? Do you think Charlie Kirk would support canceling people for exercising their free speech? Tom Sigora on social media. It’s so depressing that it’s come to this point. Everything is so divisive, and reactions to everything are only done in extremes.

Now, personally, I find the current state of affairs alarming. I wonder who will run to do what Brendan Carr suggests next. Brendan Carr is the FCC chair. Jimmy Kimmel is a great dude. The Hollywood Reporter noted that Joe Rogan has not commented yet.

It is two twenty three pm on Saturday, September twentieth, and I have googled Rogan a few times and I have not seen any comments from Joe Rogan on this. Bill Moore commented on it. Here’s his comments. ABC stands for Always Be Caving. Jimmy Paw, I am with you, I support you, and on the bright side, you don’t have to pretend any more that you like Disneyland.

You did a great funny show for two decades. You should be proud of that. If this firing goes for you the way it did for me, you’ll get twenty three years on a better network. More went on to say, now Trump is going after the New York Times. He sued them for fifteen billion dollars.

He said, they’re a mouthpiece of the Democratic Party. You know what, non they are. You’re right, and that’s their right to be that. Like, there’s not a thousand people on the right who are your mouthpiece. Okay, that’s how we work in this country.

Brian kill Meat. If you’re like, who’s that, I’ve heard of this, Brian kill mead, I’ll remind you. On September tenth, Brian kill me He was on the Fox News channel. The discussion was what do we do with people who have mental illness and refused to accept help from publicly funded resources. The guests suggested that people should be locked up in jail.

Brian killmea to jumped in and said, or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill him. Brian kill Meat is still employed by Fox News and no one has removed him from air. He has commented on Jimmy Kimmel, saying the point is that Kimmel’s comments went way too far for some television executives, not for me, not for you, but for them, and they turned up the heat on Kimmel, the host to calm down the rhetoric. You know, perhaps we shouldn’t give homeless people involuntary lethal injection.

Think about that for a second, guys. Okay, I digress, Sorry, back to Kimmel. Senator Ted Cruz chimed in. He was discussing FCC Chairman Brendan Carr’s actions. Senator Ted cru said, that’s right out of Goodfellas.

What he Carr said, they’re as dangerous as hell, and so we think the retons explicitly we’re going to cancel ABC’s license. We’re going to take them off the air so ABC cannot broadcast anymore. He says, we can do this the easy way, or it could do this the hard way. Yeah, And I got to say, that’s right out of Goodfellas. Keith Oberman pointed out, it’s actually right out of a nineteen sixty nine Monty Python sketch where two gentlemen make some implied threats to a military general.

A very funny sketch. Senator Cruz, using a mobster voice of sorts, went on to say, that’s right in mafiaoso coming into a bar, going nice barria have here. It’d be a shame if something happened to it. That’s the Python part of it. Senator Cruz added, going down this road, there will come a time when a Democrat wins again, wins the White House.

They will silence us. They will use this power, and they will use it ruthlessly, and that is dangerous. Paton Oswald chimed in on social media from an airport, this is a little lengthy, but I’m gonna let it for the most part go minor edits here adding. To the wall of voices that’s saying we see what’s happening. I know can help in times like this, So we we see what’s happening.

I think everybody sees what’s happening, except the people that are benefiting from this. We’re pretending like they don’t see what’s happening. I’m gonna try to make this coherent and quick. It’s gonna be neither, I was thinking, so Isaac Asimov, already we’re off on a tangent. Isaac Asimov said that there’s only three science fiction plots, what if, if only, and if this goes on, And unfortunately we are at the dark end of if this goes on, that line that when we crossed it, we’re all supposed to rise up.

That’s way way behind us. So we can’t just stand up anymore. We gotta get We’ve got to roar up, screaming and link arms all of us there. This thing is coming for all of us. This is a ancient evil that is shooting.

It shot right now. It sees its window, and it’s it’s taking. It’s trying again. It’s always going to try. We’re always going to have to fight it.

This is our time to fight it. And and please, I can already see in that. I can already see in the comments, imagine in the comment from going, oh you’re this West Coast Elite, I’m I’m in the airport right now. I’m traveling to Austin today. I was in Raleigh last week.

I’ll be in Ohio. Next month, I’ll be in Milwaukee. I’ll be in Wisconsin next I travel all over the country. I love traveling this country. I love this country, and I love meeting all the people here and I meet people every day every weekend doing comedy, and I know, I know, I know this is not what they voted for.

They maybe they thought they were voting for something else. I know this is not what they were voting for. And everyone that’s been saying, oh, I support in Trumpet, this is what I’m this is what I voted for. Well, now’s your time to actually show that. Okay, please please.

This is an awesome country. This is an awesome country, and we’re handing it over to frightened, short sighted me. I don’t even know what these what these people are. We’re handing it over to the wrong people. And Emmy winner James Woods has chimed into his five million Twitter followers.

Woods wrote, We’ve all made jokes at Jimmy Kimmel’s expense, but mister Kimmel is a fellow artist, and in fact, I’m heartbroken to see the way he’s been treated. I believe he is and his heart as a heart. It’s a good and decent fellow, devoid of malice and hate. Just kidding, Jimbo eat crap, he used the S word there. On Friday, James Woods responded to the Stephen Colbert line tonight, we are all Jimmy Kimmel.

Woods wrote, He’s right, you’re all douchebags. James Woods on Twitter, and that is your bonus episode. Okay, next thing in the feed will be Sunday morning. It’ll be a normal episode, and there will be a Sunday afternoon Jimmy Kimmel bonus episode. Joysh Saturday

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hi, Wow, I’m Shineck with your Daily Comedy News. This is the normal episode for Saturday.

Let’s talk about some other stuff.

Huh, if you want to talk Jimmy Kimmel. I dropped two bonus episodes yesterday. I’ll drop another one later today. But uh, you know, sometimes you’re at working you just need to like go outside and take a walk. This is the podcast equivalent of that.

Let’s talk about something else again. I’m really into the Kimmel thing, but it’s all I’ve been doing since Wednesday night. The Muppet Show is coming back for a one event special in twenty twenty six to coincide with the original show’s fiftieth anniversary. In this special, the Muppets returned to the Muppet Theater to produce a variety show. Sabrina Carpenter will guest star.

Have the Muppets listened to her lyrics? Seth Rogan’s got his hand in this somehow as an executive producer. The Original Muppet Show, created by Jim Henson, ran from nineteen seventy six to nineteen eighty one. Wait aren’t they owned by Disney? Now?

Oh, aren’t we boycotting Disney because we’re all mad about Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, Disney, Hulu, Marvel, Star Wars. You can’t partially boycott John. Why’d you lead off with the Muppets? You’re promoting Disney, you horrible person.

The Original Muppet Show, back when it was good and not owned by those Disney people, aired from nineteen seventy six to nineteen eighty one. I watched it all the time. Aired in one hundred countries. Featured guest stars including Elton John, Johnny Cash, Diana Ross, Debbie Harry, Gladys Knight, Elizamn, Ellie, Paul Simon, and many others. There were a lot of great people on that show.

I actually liked. A couple years ago they sort of brought it back. It was like, what if the Muppets did The Office? I thought that was actually pretty good. Greg Daniels, you know, the guy from the Office and the guy from the Paper.

He apparently at one time was trying to revive the Muppets. He told the Hollywood Reporter. I didn’t have a treatment, but I was trying to figure out what would be the next thing for the friend. It felt very baby boomer and millennial, but I was more of a gen xer and didn’t get where it fit. In two thousand and five, this was just before the Office, so I ended up getting that instead.

You know, I think should do it next Robert Smigel. He’d figure out a way to reinvigorate the Muppets and make it cool. I try to work with Robert on Space Force, but he always has a lot going on. Once we clear the current news cycle, All Eyes will be on Saturday Night Live. They have announced the first three hosts for season fifty one, up first October fourth, Bad Bunny Why.

I don’t know either. People seem to think he does a good job hosting. I mean his music school, but I don’t think he’s that good of a host. But he’s only hosting. He’s not the musical guest.

Doja Cat will make her debut. I guess we’ll be getting a lot of more solo Hernandez who does one thing and does one thing well, but he does one thing well. October eleventh. Amy Poehler musical guest role model Amy Poehler is hosting the show fifty years to the day of the very first episode of SNL. Some people have I wondered, why didn’t they just wait till October eleventh?

Why are they going October fourth? I don’t know, ask Louren Michaels. I’m a guy hosting a podcast in the basement. Lauren knows better than me. Sabrina Carpenter second mench of the Day.

She is the host and musical guest on October eighteenth. Have people heard her lyrics? I mean, these lyrics have words like horn and wet in them. At eleven thirty on a Saturday night, Okay, we might be wet on the Uppet Show, I’m not sure. I was so busy with the Kimmel stuff.

I got offered a screener to watch Friend of the Show Marco Serezi’s a new special, Thief of Joy, and I was like, thanks, publicist. And you could tell the publicist doesn’t work for Hulu because they actually offered me a screener and correspond with me. But I was like, thanks publicist, but I don’t have a free minute. I haven’t even had anything to eat. So I told her, I’m like, I’ll just wait till seven o’clock Friday night when Thief of Joy premiered.

You’ll find it on YouTube. Other friend of the show Jason Zinneman at the New York Times. Now, I almost reached out to Jason Zinneman, and Jason, if you’re listening, you could reach out to me. But I saw when kimmelgate broke out, I saw Jason tweeting that he was about to get on a plane for vacations. So I’m like, all right, I won’t bug the guy, but Jason, if you’re listening, I’d love to talk to you about all this.

A friend of the show, Jason from The New York Times called John Marcos special superb, marrying the flare and showmanship of a Broadway baby with the ruthless irreverence of a club comic. Zinneman writes about one of the particular bits, I will not spoil it for you, and that’s not a dig. Friend of the show, Jason Zimmon from The New York Times let us let you experience it yourself, but he wrote, the particular bit is a funny mix of cringe and cutting, tryhard and eye roll, lip biting emotionalism, and cynical snark. We tend to think of the stand up comic as the natural enemy of the theater. Kid but Cirezi makes them seem like old friends, a complimentary double act.

Jason writes, American comedians have increasingly stood up by shaping their jokes into a narrative arc, putting on solo shows that are more ambitious thematically and emotionally, sometimes at the expensive laughs. That’s not what Sirezi’s doing here. If anything, Thief of Joy represents a breakthrough for him because of its commitment to the craft of jokes. Eric idl in the news for two reasons. Of first reason, he was asked about Stephen Colbert.

He made these comments before Kimmelgate broke out, but this comment was about Stephen Colbert. Eric Idol said, there’s a reason Hitler and Trump got rid of the comedians. First, they hate being laughed at. I’ll suck her back to the second Eric Idol story after I tell you that. Andrew Colvett’s, an executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show, said Charlie loved that he was featured in South Park and would have wanted the episode satirizing him to continue airing.

The August sixth episode of South Park saw Cartman do Charlie Kirk kind of thing. Comedy Central has pulled the episode from airing on television. I believe it’s still available on Paramount Plus. Andrew Colvett, that friend said, as someone who can speak with some authority on this, Charlie loved that he was featured on South Park. He told me many times he’d won the episode.

Right back to Eric Idol, he gave a health update. He was hospitalized twice in three days. Is eighty three years old, lives in Los Angeles. Jumped on Twitter and said he’s suffering from gastro in tritis and an inflammation of the stomach intestints, typically caused by a viral or bacterial infection. He said, so, I’d like to thank all the doctors, nurses and staff, and the Cedar Sinai La Hospital gi Ward for their kindness and helped to me today the second time in three days.

I love you people. Johnny macbot here he forgot to tell you about the Toronto Comedy Festival Tonight at seven, Ron Funches, Sarah Milliken at seven, Jay Jorden at seven, Al Madrigal at seven, Zarna Garg at seven, James Odomian’s Alt show is at seven to ten. John would probably tell you let’s go see Madrigal at seven and then have two beers and go to bed. So let me catch up on this story because it’s sort of apropos of the theme of the second half of the week. Anyway, Variety’s headline.

Again, this was before Kimmelgate. NBC bets Jimmy Fallon’s advertising antics will help ward off TV’s late night woes, and they talked about the episode Fallon taped in Detroit last Sunday that aired Monday. Ford Motor Company had a hard to miss roll in the program. The Detroit Opera House was filled with an audience of Ford employees and partners. Ford’s chief marketing officer said, what we like to do is tell stories, and Jimmy’s the same.

He does it in such creative ways that it really lands well with the audience. Variety got into the numbers of the late night business. In twenty eighteen, five late night shows, the two on CBS, the two on NBC, and Kimmel combined around four hundred and thirty nine million dollars, according to Guideline, who tracks ad spending. By twenty twenty four, that number was down to two hundred and twenty point six million, there’s no more twelve thirty on CBS. Soon there will be no more eleven thirty on CBS, and I don’t know if there’s an eleven thirty on ABC anymore.

Fallons Tonight Show brought in one hundred and four point seven million dollars in twenty twenty three seventy eight million in twenty twenty four. The article tells us that Jimmy Fallon maintains a relationship with the Ford CEO and meets with Ford X secutives regularly to find out what products and initiatives are on top of their minds. In the past, Jimmy Foun’s team created a video that had Jimmy raising a baby Bronco and another that spotlighted the Electric f one fifty. The CMO over at Ford says, when you have a partner who’s truly interested in co creating with you, the result is not cookie cutter. It’s not a one size fits all program, and that’s what we love about it.

Now we can all sit here and eye roll Jimmy Fallon, but this is what you gotta do. This is gonna work, and that is your comedy News normal episode for a Saturday morning. I’ll be back in a few hours and we’ll update you on kimmel See in a bit.

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hi there, I’m Johnny Mack. This is a Friday afternoon Jimmy Kimmel’s specific bonus episode. Earlier today, I did a Kimmel specific bonus episode with the late night reactions, and then there was the normal episode in the feed. So this is the third one today.

If you’re just catching up, we have a kind of sort I heard from Jimmy Kimmel now. Adam Carolla co hosted The Man Show with Kimmel way back when Corolla shared that he texted his friend Jimmy Kimmel, as one does, and he heard back from Jimmy within eighteen seconds. According to Corolla, Kimmel wrote, Wow, strange times out here. Corolla joke that he’d finally booked Bill O’Reilly for Kimmel’s show. Kimmell responded, I’m being followed by a helicopter.

Sources and producers have told The Daily Mail Kimmel is reportedly quote absolutely effing livid. Another said Jimmy is uh ticked. Rick Ellis has a substack called too Much TV. He spoke with a staffer at the Kimmel Show. According to Elis, the staffer said, I’m in the middle of one of those moments that really defines the type of person you are.

He doesn’t think Kimmel will come back. He said the show has been great, it was everything around it that sucked. The staffers said it was becoming increasingly clear in recent weeks that Sir Eiger and the ABC executives would cut us loose in a second if they thought something we did might hurt attendance at disney World or cost anyone their annual bonus. By the way, that reminds me, just a week ago we heard that Disney made Andrew Santino added his jokes and Santino took the paycheck. Remember that was a story.

Just throwing that out there. Uh. The staffer said they were not shocked by ABC’s decision, but surprised by the timing quote. But you could see it coming. Every time some mega ass hat would spount off about the show that not in my stomach just got tighter.

There are a lot of people working on the show can’t afford to be out of work. They have jobs. I won’t pay them if they don’t work, and they likely don’t have much money saved up. If you’re in Hollywood and don’t want to say anything and support publicly. Well, f you, But one thing you can do is find a job for one of the staffers who need it right now, even if it means digging into your own pocket.

Spending a little of your own money is the least you can do. Honestly, it’s the least you can do. The staffer cannot imagine a scenario in which the show returns. Even if Jimmy was willing to publicly apologize and donate money to whatever ghoulish conservative group that is demanding it. Maggot, people will never be happy.

It’ll never be enough, and Disney will look at the situation and decide it’s cheaper to buy out the rest of his contract and replace the show with reruns of Modern Family and Judge Judy backing up on some news that I just haven’t had a minute to share with you, so Stephen Colbert, he’s there hosting the Late Show on Wednesday night, Late Night reported according to those in attendance for that taping, Colbert was added a phone towards the end of the show and appeared visibly shaken as he read the Kimmel news. Colbert paused for several moments before raising his hands to mouth and disbelief. Production halted for around five minutes. Colbert excused himself to find out more information. When he returned late nighter, tells Us, Colbert told the audience he didn’t yet have clarity on the sitch and would address it on the next night’s show.

Apparently the vibe in the room changed, you can understand that.

Meanwhile, in La Kimmel’s audience was about to be seated when they found out…

Guttfeld was handed the news in the middle of his show being taped. That’s when doctor Drew and Guttfeld said, the stuff I shared with you this morning. During Gutfeld’s monologue, which was before he knew the show had been yanked, Guttfeld commented how Kimmel’s remarks had been made at that point two days ago. Gottfeld said, so kim All had the chance to walk it back, but he can’t. Why is that because to admit he was wrong on this, causing to question his entire filter for interpreting reality.

So it’s better to live in denial, knowing the like minded media won’t press you on it, but we will. Hey, Disney shareholders, it may be time to thought out Walt, to put things right. No wonder your five year stock price looks like this. Bambi’s mom has a brighter future. I’m going to play the Kimmel clip again.

I know I’ve been playing it a lot, But what is getting lost in the media is this is not a Charlie Kirk joke. This is a Trump joke. Let’s listen. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and do everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.

On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the President is taking this. I adults are down a. Lowt of your friend Charlie Kirk asked sir personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, Sir, I think very good. And by the way, right there you see all the Trumps. They’ve just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they’ve been trying to get as you know, for about one hundred and fifty years, and it’s going to be a beauty.

Yes, he’s at the fourth stage of grief, construction, the demolition. This is not how an adult grieves the murder of somebody called a friend. This is how a four year old morn’s a goldfish. On Thursday, Jimmy Fallon was slated to appear at a New York conference panel. A few minutes before that, Jimmy pulled out.

The Fast Company Innovation Festival put out a statement saying, unfortunately, Jimmy Fallon is no longer able to attend today’s session. That is interesting. I assume he didn’t want to field questions the way say David Letterman did. But David Letterman does not have an active, ongoing late night concern So Letterman, you know, in many ways, is more free to speak his mind. Interestingly, Fallon and a marketing executive were scheduled to talk about their new advertising focused series on Brand.

The moderator kicked off the session saying, in light of current events, Jimmy couldn’t make it this morning, so they’re not even hiding the reason. Some comedian reactions Jim Gaffigan posted on threads, I think it was Jim wrote, go watch what he said, not what others say he said. And you know I just played the clip. You heard it yourself. Kevin neil And on social said, this isn’t about politics.

It’s about whether we still live in a country where people can disagree out loud without corporations or the White House administration deciding who gets muted. What’s happening is wrong. Speak up, however you can. Silence is not an option. Mike Burbigley on Instagram did a post captioned calling all comedians.

Mike wrote, I’ve spent a lot of time in public and private defending comedians I don’t agree with. If you’re a comedian and you don’t call out the insanity of pulling Kimmel off the air, don’t bother spouting off about free speech anymore. Wanda Sykes was booked as a guest on The Kimmel Show that never happened. She said, so, I’m in full face makeup because I was supposed to go over and have a chat with my friend Jimmy Kimmel on a show. But as if you’ve heard by now, da da da So Let’s see.

Trump didn’t end the Ukraine War, solve Gaza within his first week, but he did end freedom of speech within his first year. Hey, for those of you who pray, now it’s the time to do it. Love you, Jimmy, Jean smartwaight In. I am horrified at the cancelation of Jimmy Kimmelive. What Jimmy said, it was free speech, not hate speech.

People seem to only want to protect free speech when it’s their agenda. Though I didn’t agree at all with Charlie Kirk’s shooting. Death sick in me and should have sickened any decent human being. What is happening in our country? Kathy Griffin said, please take it from me, it’s very important to have Jimmy Kimmel back right now, be vocal, be an ideological consumer money as all their crowd cares about.

Tim Heidecker was on a red carpet the other day. He said, it’s happening very quickly, and we’re seeing the results of electing a fascist and living what it feels like under a fascist regime. It’s absolutely state sponsored censorship. Roseanne went the other way and said I wasn’t fired for lying. I was fired for telling the truth about the Iron Deal and slandered into oblivion.

This will still be worse for our side than theirs. Kim will get an entire PR tour to clear his name with the backing of all media. A Google search of the words Joe Rogan Kimmel did not reveal anything. A Google search of the phrase THEO von Kimmel is not an immediately showing me any results about what THEO Vaughn may or may not have said. But here’s an article I’m finding on the fly.

Who could replace Jimmy Kimmel odds on ABC’s next late night host? Okay, I’ll click on it now. The answer is nobody. They’ll just put on game shows or reruns. CBS has given them cover to get out of late night business.

Why wouldn’t you get out? Newsweek is sourcing an online betting website. The leader of the pack at four to one odds is Greg Guttfeld. There’s a better chance of me hosting eleven thirty on ABC than Greg Guttfeld leaving Fox to go to ABC to do eleven thirty. There’s absolutely a better chance of me doing it.

They have THEO Vaughn at five to one and Tony Hinchcliff at seven to one. This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. Tiffany Hattish at ten to one, and fourth place Andrew Schultz and Steven A. Smith at twelve to one. The Stephen A.

Smith is at least somewhat plausible. Which late night show will be canceled next? At even odds, Jimmy Fallon, followed by John Stewart at four to one and John Oliver at five to one. That doesn’t make sense either. A different betting site released its odds for Jimmy Kimmel’s replacement.

They have Caitlin Jenner at the top at five to two, followed by Rob Schneider at four to one and Tim Allen at six to one. Guttfeld fourth at seven to one. Again, there’s a better chance of me hosting than any of those names. I just said. I just want to throw something against the wall now.

So let’s wrap up back in the morning with a normal episode, back Saturday afternoon with a Kimmel bonus episode. I have a great day, guys,

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hi, I’m Johnny Mack. This is the bonus episode for Friday Morning. I’m going to cover the late night reactions to what’s happening with Jimmy Kimmel being pulled off the air, just to keep everybody straight on what’s happening on the feed. The episode before this is the normal Friday episode.

I had recorded it before any of this Kimmel stuff started, so that’s in the feed in case you missed it. On Thursday afternoon, I dropped two Kimmel related episodes, a bonus episode and then a crossover episode I did with Mike Chisholm on The Letterman Podcast where we really broke down what’s going on here and you can hear a lot of my personal thoughts on that. Episode’s about an hour long. All right, on late night, let’s start with John Stewart. He did a very administration friendly version of the Daily Show on a very gaudy gold trimmed set.

For this John Stewart clip, and almost every clip I’m going to play today, I have trimmed them for both pace and language. A lot of the hosts were getting long applause breaks, and you know, I want I want to keep things moving, So almost everything I’m going to play in this episode has been edited, but I’m keeping the integrity of what was said intact. Here’s John Stewart opening the Daily Show. From Comedy Central. It’s the all new, government approved Daily Show with your patriotically obedient host, John Stewart.

My name is My name is John Stewart, and welcome to the Daily Show. On I’m gonna guess Monday, I don’t know. We have another fun, hilarious administration compliant show. What are you doing? Shut up?

Coming here tonight for crime written Sethpool. It is new. It is a tremendous disaster like no one’s ever seen before. Someone’s National Guard should invade this place? Am I right?

And here’s some more from John. Now, the visit Dingland couldn’t have gone better for our president. Finally a country affording our great leader the respect and deference that any sun God would command. We saw the dismissal of a very well known show host in America last night. Mister Kimmel is pre speech more under attack in Britain or America?

How dare you, sir? How dare you sir? What outfit are you with? Sir, the Antifa Herald Tribune, why I wouldn’t even line my parent’s cage with your rag?

And then John explain how all this works.

There’s a very. Reasonable explanation for what befell the scally wagg Kimball. Well, Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings more than anything else, and he said a horrible thing about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. And Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person. He had very bad ratings and they should have fired him a long time ago.

So you know, you can call that free speech or not. You may call it free speech in jolly old England, But in America we have a little something called the First Amendment. And let me tell you how it works. There’s something called a talent ometer. It’s a completely scientific instrument that is kept on the President’s desk, and it tells the president when a performer’s TQ talent quot measured mostly by niceness to the President, goes below a certain level, at which point the FCC must be notified to threaten the acquisition prospects for billion dollar mergers of network affiliates.

These affiliates are then asked to give ultimatums to the even larger mega corporation that could the flow of state of proof content or the FCS can just chose treated those licenses directly. It’s basic science. Lead your Stephen Colbert opened up his show, Let’s listen. Welcome one and all to the Late Show. I’m your host, Stephen Colbert.

But but tonight we are all Jimmy Kimmel, I am. I still have a show though, right, okay, Yesterday, after threats from Trump’s FCC chair, ABC yanked Kimmel off the air indefinitely. That is blatant censorship. And it always starts small, you know, remember like in week one of his presidency, Gulf of America, call it Gulf of America. Sure seems harmless, but with an autocrat you cannot give an inch.

And if ABC thinks the this is going to satisfy the regime, they are woefully naive and clearly they’ve never read the children’s book. If you give a mouse a Kimmel, and to Jimmy and to Jimmy, just let me say I stand with you and your staff one hundred percent.

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And also you couldn’t let me enjoy this for like one week.

Just come on. And the thing to which he refers to a can I enjoy this for the week was his Emmy. Here’s another clip from Stephen Colbert. This decision came after senior executives at ABC, Disney and affiliates convened emergency meetings during which multiple execs felt that Kimmel had not actually said anything over the line, but the threat of Trump administration retaliation loomed. As one source at ABC put it, they were pissing themselves all day.

On the bright side, that proves Disney is number one in streaming. Now, this this, all, this may seem bad, but Carr was quick to reassure everyone, posting, while this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values. Well, you know what my community values are, buster freedom of speech. Oh and Stephen also brought back his conservative Stephen Colbert character. I’m gonna cut this pretty tight because the graphics are doing a lot of the work for the laughs while he stays in character.

So I’ll really clip this down. Hello Nation, Daddy, Tom Yip, So drop trout and lay across my lap because I’m going to spank you with freedom until i can see the American flag reflected in your shiny, swollen asses. Thaks, gentlemen, my friend’s nation. I returned to you tonight to rescue from this free speech crisis. I’m gonna scream the answer loud and proud, nation folk.

America’s facing perhaps its greatest crisis. And two one hundred and forty nine years you see people, people are saying things that hurt Donald Trump’s feelings. Now, usual, ladies and gentlemen, usually in the TV biz, if people are upset with you over something that you’ve said or done, the eyeballs and the advertising go somewhere else. That’s called capitalism. But in this.

ABC case, the FCC had no choice but to slap down the invisible hand of the market. Now you might think the Constitution coddlers out there argue that Americans are born with certain God given rights like life and liberty, and of course the pursuit of happiness. But what about the pursuit of Donald Trump’s happiness? And yes, it’s true, the words Donald Trump aren’t in the Constitution. But ladies and gentlemen, ladies, gentlemen, I can say they are because I have freedom of speech.

So just how do you balance your rights with your duty not to make the commander in chief fill his depends with tears? On Thursday, it happened to be David Letterman had a scheduled appearance at the Atlantic Festival, so they asked him about all this. Well, this is a misery. And in the world of somebody who is an authoritarian, maybe a dictatorship, sooner or later, everyone is going to be touched. But this is me.

For thirty years, I did this for a living, so I see this happen. They took care of Colbert. That was rude, That was inexcusable. The man deserves a great deal of credit. He’s in the Hall of Fame nine times, and to be manipulated like that because the Ellison family, I didn’t want to trouble Donald Trump with this move, so they got rid of him.

Not only got rid of him, got rid of the whole franchise. You’re not gonna have to worry about anything, Larry, it’s all gone. It’s fine, good night.

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And then my good friend Jimmy Kimmel, you know, I just I feel bad about this …

Correct. It’s managed media, and it’s no good. It’s silly, it’s ridiculous. And you can’t go around firing somebody because you’re fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian, criminal administration in the Oval office. That’s just not how this works.

The worst person who ever lived, Jay Leno, had the audacity to weigh in on Late Night. Here’s Jay Leno. Look, I’m a huge proponent of free speech place I’m I’m Jimmy Kimber’s. Could I have ever imagine something like. This happening when you wand here?

Yeah? Yeah, these kind of things happen all the time. But you know, you don’t get canceled saying popular things get canceled. You know sometimes usually it’s the truth that winds up getting canceled. I think Jimmy will land on a scene.

He’s a talented guy, he’s funny, and let’s see what happens. I maybe you might be on just a couple of weeks. Again, it’s a comedian talking. If they don’t like it, don’t watch it. I mean it doesn’t seems well, that’s the market.

I mean, let the people decide if people like a show, it stays on the air. I mean, that’s as simple as that. I mean, I enjoyed Jimmy. I like all the guys. I think they’re really talented.

I like jokes. That’s why I watch. Does the future of comedy in good hands? Yeah, it’ll be all right, don’t worry about it. Yeah, Jimmy Fallon tends to catch a lot of guph for not being as edgy as the other at late night host.

Normally I will defend Jimmy Fallon. Today I’m not going to defend Jimmy Fallon. Hey, Jimmy Fallon, come on dude. Well, guys, the big story is that Jimmy Kimmel was suspended by ABC after pressure from the FCC, leaving everyone thinking WTF. This morning, I woke up to one hundred text messages for my dad saying I’m sorry they cancel your show.

Heyo, that’s not me, that’s Jimmy Kimmel. But to be honest with you all, I don’t know what’s going on, and no one does. But I do know Jimmy Kimmel and he’s a decent, funny and loving guy, and I hope he comes back. Jimmy then did a setup, saying he was going to do his monologue just like I normally would, but with the punchlines of his jokes about Trump replaced by an announcer to make them inoffensive. Speaking off air during an audience Q and a late night or says, Fallon said he had texted with Kimmel and he loves both Kimmel and Colbert, adding we need to entertain and we need people to be happy in this crazy world.

Seth Myers, who you know, you’ve heard my opinions on Seth Myers. Anyway, here’s what he did. And may I just say it is a privilege and an honor to call Jimmy Kimmel my friend, in the same way that it’s a privilege and honor to do this show every night. I wake up every day I count my blessings that I live in a country that at least purports to value freedom of speech. And we’re going to keep doing our show the way we’ve always done it, with enthusiasm and integrity, and I’m you’re gonna have a conversation out at them.

I’m very disappointing in. The way. This is a pivotable pivotable. This is a pivotal. This is a pivotal and pivotable.

That’s how big it is. This is a pivotabal point. This is a pivotal is a big moment in our democracy, and we must all stand up for the principles of free expression. There’s a reason free speech is in the very first Amendment. It stands above all others.

You might even say it’s the Ultimately, this has been a closer life. On Wednesday night, Greg Guttfeld reacted to all this. His guest was doctor Drew, who said, for thirty years I’ve known Jimmy, I knew this was coming. Gutfeld is the only show that works on late. These other models just don’t work.

The fact that they’re only representing one point of view and is so far from reality. They won’t let reality come in. There’s going to be a consequence. I’m delighted to see that. I’m sorry, but I’m delighted, says doctor Drew.

Greg Guttfeld said, I don’t think Kim will expected any pushback at all. He’s in his bubble, comfortable, he goes even if he’s wrong, who’s gonna come after me? They agree with me anyway? Earlier on that day, Guttveld was on Fox News The Five and said of Kimmel, he didn’t imply kirk shooter was mega. He said it.

If he doesn’t address what he did, he’s done. This is a great case, though, of cognitive dissonance. How could such a smart, successful person be so wrong? I think it’s helpful to let’s listen to what Jimmy Kimmel actually said. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and everything they can to score political points from.

And in between the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flag at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the President is taking this. Idols are down the hatinger friend Charlie, Sir, personally, how are you holding up for the last day. And a half, sir, I think very good. And by the way, right there you see all the trucks.

They’ve just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which. Is something they’ve been trying to get as you know, for about one hundred and fifty years, and it’s going to be a beauty. Yes, he’s at the fourth stage of grief construction. There’s demolition. Construction.

This is not how an adult grief’s the murderer of somebody called a friend. This is how a four year old morn’s a goldfish. Guttfeld called Kimmel the bad guy in the movie. He was stuck with the delusion about Trump supporters for years. I hate to tell you, buddy, but the guy who shot and killed Charlie Kirk was more likely a fan of yours.

And that is a bonus episode. I will be back this afternoon with more. There’s so much going on here. I just wanted to get the late night clips out and I haven’t had a chance to process it. So right now, the plan is another bonus episode later today on Friday, a normal Saturday episode, another Kimmel related bonus episode on Saturday afternoon, a normal Sunday morning episode, and then we’ll take it from there and I will continue to update you in the feed.

New listeners, I appreciate you stay on board. Hit that follow button. Ongoing listeners, Thank you. This is I love doing this as Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast, and I said, we hate that we have to do this, but this is the corner on which I’ve chosen to open my store, and we’ve got a massive, massive comedy topic and we are going to talk about it, all right. I’ll be back later this afternoon.

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His John again. So what this is. This is the normal episode for Friday morning. I had recorded this before any of the Kimmel news broke. So what I often pretay Friday during the fall because I teach a class on Thursday morning.

It just makes my life easier, and my rule is and if something happens, I’ll just do a bonus episode. So that’s exactly what’s going on. In case you missed it. Yesterday afternoon, sometime a little before four pm Eastern, I dropped a bonus episode where I talked about some Kimmel stuff, and then a little while after I dropped a second bonus episode that was a crossover with Mike Chisholm from The Letterman podcast. So we talked for about an hour about Jimmy Kimmel.

This that you’re about to hear is the normal Friday episode, and then I’ll come back this afternoon and do another Kimmel bonus. So here’s regular Friday. Caloroga Shark Media. I understand you’re not supposed to tell a story at the start of the podcast. I’m Johnny Mack with your daily coming news, but I gotta find my fastball here.

You know, when you come down off an adrenaline rush. I just had a caper, and as I always say in my family, I’ll take a caper over a crisis. So long story medium, the dog doug a hole under the fence and got out. I found out because the other dog was crying. I couldn’t find the dog.

Was driving around doing loops and loops. About a half hour in, I ran into local PD and I’m like, hey, you happen to see a dog running around? He hadn’t, but he’s very friendly and he’s like, I’ll get the guys in on it. So basically, I live in a small town and thank you local police department. They were all super friendly, super helpful.

So I was doing a loop, but I came back to my house and they had found the dog, and there’s like three police SUVs in front of my house, all parked haphazardly. I’m sure the neighbors thought somebody was murdered. It did not look good at all. It looked like some serious stuff went down. But I’m coming off that adrenaline rush now, so I gotta figure this out.

A week or so ago, before all the news with the Emmys and and everything else that’s been going on, in the world. Vulture got David Letterman to sit down a very very interesting article, and I’m gonna pick away at it. Over the next few days and weeks, they started talking about Letterman’s ten am show, Remember that one. I barely remember it. I remember it being a failure, and I’ve only seen a few clips of it.

I wish that thing would get released. I’d love to watch it, Letterman said, looking at it now with age, that was a fascinating life experience. I left Indiana thinking everything that’s wrong with television and TV comedy. I have the solution, and as soon as I get there, hang on, if you folks can wait it out another year or two, I will solve everything that’s wrong with comedy on television. And we dropped it down I think at ten in the morning or nine in the morning across the NBC television network, and the producer of the show quit the friday before it was to go on the air because he didn’t get it.

We didn’t get him. We locked heads. It was nothing but screaming fights. We had no other guidance, no north Star except you know what, We’re sick of all these game shows. Just wait to get a look at us, And boy, so was that a huge lesson for me?

I realized, Yeah, you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

And then like a month and a half, sixteen weeks, whatever it was, we’re gone,…

The fact that they were able to keep me around and that year of not having anywhere to go except comedy clubs was a sad, sad experience for me because in show business, as with life, you get your one shot and if it doesn’t work, you go to the end of the line, and who knows how long that line is. So against my own ego, against my own bitter judgment, we had to sit down and it was a learning process, but boy was it tough. It was really tough because just the ego involved with the wait until you get to look at us was so misguided. Vulture points out, if you’ve seen clips of the morning program, a lot of the DNA of Late Night was there, including jokes about New York and segments like small town News. They were curious how Dave decided what to keep and what to change for Late Night.

Dave said, well, it was interesting because of the failure of the daytime show and the restrictions that were placed on us in order to protect our relationship with the Tonight show. It was nothing punitive, but there were certain restrictions. No monologue, no big orchestra. We couldn’t book the same guests they were booking. All those things actually worked in our favor.

We had a tremendous group of musicians. I wasn’t carrying a Johnny Carson monologue for ourselves, and the people he was booking would probably have no interest to us at that time. That’ll change, of course, but that helped us. Now. The other side of this, every second I was on the air, is waiting to get the hook because would come and gone so quickly, and the result of it was just darkness for a year.

I feared that some I’m torn between the two things. It didn’t work the first time. We have reasons now alter the show or to keep it the same way. But what the hell happens if this goes away? So the first two or three months, I think we’re all nervous about the outcome, But then again, you have to remember those days there was nothing on opposite us, so no offense you could have had a show that would have been successful.

Al dot Com Alabama dot Com caught up with Mark Norman. They were curious about his appearances on The Joe Rogan Experience. Always a good phrase to say in full for the Apple podcast transcripts. That’s right, I said, Joe Rogan Experience, Mark Norman. What’s something interesting behind the scenes of the Joe Rogan Experience.

Norman said, Well, famously, Joe Rogan on The Joe Rogan Experience turns down a lot of people. He actually wants to talk to you. He doesn’t want to have a guy on because he’s promoting a movie, you know. So I think that show’s in the show, which of course is called what That’s right, the Joe Rogan Experience. Whether you watch The Joe Rogan Experience or not, I know it’s a very divisive topic found with fastball, but if you watch it, it’s pretty genuine.

Watch No, it’s a podcast. We listen to podcasts, Mark Norman, we don’t watch them. If Joe Rogan doesn’t think it’s funny, he won’t laugh, which is painful for comedian usually. But if he thinks it’s funny to laugh, if he thinks it’s interesting, he’ll divulge. If he doesn’t, he’ll move on.

And it’s the opposite of a guy like Jimmy Fallon, who’s a sweet guy. But I mean, let’s be honest, he’s falling over slapping the desk over a mediocre joke, you know. Mark Norman was asked about the future of Late Night Company. Mark Norman said, I think there’s always gonna be talk shows. They’re just different formats.

It’s kind of like there’s always gonna be a Jenner, but one day it’s Bruce, the next day it’s Caitlin. Things just change. That’s a funny line. And I think podcasts have filled in the gap of talk shows. And so I did all the talk shows and those that were relevant and those that became a little more irrelevant.

So then you go, what’s relevant. Let me get on Bad Friends with Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee, or this past Weekend with Theo Vaughn or whatever the pod de jour. So it’s just morphs it. In five years, it’ll probably be a new thing. Thanks SEO friends, Caleb Heron has a special out on HBO Max Today or no, it’s just what are we calling it out?

Yeah, it’s HBO, Max. I can’t keep track of what you people call this thing. You know, the thing on your streamer that you call HBO. That button, click that one. Caleb Heron, model comedian Tonight nine Eastern, filmed in front of a sold out crowd at Constellation in Chicago.

Model comedian showcases Heroon’s ability to unpack life’s most absurd contradictions with his signature charm and razor sharp wits. I think I’ve pointed this out in the past. That’s the description for every comedy special copywriters. Step it up. You can’t just go oh yeah, you know, observations on things and he’s funny, Yeah, we know.

Thirty year old here On deploys’s generational Midwestern wisdom to solve most of the world’s problems politics, internet trolls, and learning that we’re not that different from our parents. See that’s good copy. That was good job there. All right. I bounced this yesterday.

The Toronto Comedy Festival actually kicked off Thursday night, But if you listened to yesterday’s show, I kind of landed in a soft place and was like, you should get out now, and I got up then. Plus the festival goes quite some time. It goes until the twenty seventh. Comedians appearing include Gave Iglesias, Sarah Millikan, Maria Bamford Out Madrigal Big, Jay Okerson, and Ron Funches. Now also mentioned here Gina Sheer.

If you heard yesterday show, she had some comments about Charlie Kirk. So we’ll see how that all shakes out. Well, let’s see who’s there tonight. Sarah Millican at seven, Ron Funches at seven, Jay Jorden seven, zarn A garg at seven, Safari Time live taping at seven, the JFL Live Sessions at seven, Dual Citizens at seven, Gave Iglesias at eight, John Mosten special taping at eight thirty, Britney Schmid at nine, more Sapory Time, more John Mosten, the Alternative Show with James Adomio and at eleven at midnight Mannus at eleven thirty. All right, if we were there tonight, just working backwards a Domian doing an all show at eleven o’clock, if I could stay awake that long, yeah, absolutely, Like Gabe is good, but we know what Gabe does.

That’s a bad use of the festival. The time I did the Toronto Comedy Festival is one of my favorites because you can really really bar hop in Toronto, and that is the best way to do things. I remember one time I saw Ryan Bellville and Kate River Wilson in a bar somewhere. They were just fantastic. So if you’re up at the Toronto Festival, don’t go see the people you’ve heard of.

Do some smaller things. I mean, you’ve heard of James Adomian, but it’s an all show. Do that. And for an early show, let’s see Jay Jorden. We could do what was the other one?

Funches Sarah Milliken? Maybe do Sarah at seven o’clock just or something different. Can’t stop talking about the Emmys. Amy Poehler weighed in her guest Benedict Cumberbatch, who said, if you can comedy, you can do anything. I really believe that.

Amy said, of course, you don’t have to tell me, babe. Every single year the Oscars, everybody in comedy gets blanked and all the serious people get up and except it’s some hot bs, because comedy’s not easy. And I gotta tell you both you and Olivia Coleman can do both. Yeah. I saw a bunch of people mentioning lately like there’s no best comedic actor.

One person who made that point is Jim Jeffries on his recent special Shockingly. I watched some comedy specials the other night. I started out with my friend Larry the Cable Guy, his special on Amazon. It’s fine. It’s Larry doing what Larry does.

I don’t think Larry would tell you I’m trying to do what Mark Maron did in his last special. It’s Larry being Larry, just up there checking jokes. I’ll tell you the punch line of one, but I won’t tell you the setup so he won’t see it coming. But his no fry zone joke is a real good joke. I did notice the theater was a little smaller than expected, so it’s not quite cozy, but it doesn’t feel like one of those big giant specials.

But Larry absolutely should watch that. Switched over to Andrew Santino, No, he’s in. I think it was the Chicago Theater, which is a big, proper theater where you know, it’s kind of what you’re used to a special looking like. And I was watching and it was fine, and then all of a sudden it clicked into me two things. One Santina was just reciting the material.

I noticed this a lot of times with stand up, and I get that the whole thing is a performance. I get that the whole thing is memorized, but sometimes when you’re watching someone, you can tell that they’re surfing the crowd and kind of feeling the moment. Santino was doing his act, not reacting at all to anything coming back from the audience. He was just like, and now I say these words he told them. Well, but I think he’s getting by on charisma.

I think Andrew Santino’s charisma is better than the material in this special. But it’s very watchable. People will like it, and I’m a comedy snob, I know that.

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And then I switched over to Jim Jeffery’s Two Limb Policy, which is the secon…

Jim is on the surfboard. He’s riding it well. At one point he does react to the crowd reacting to him. I loved Jim Jeffrey special, So make that the next one that you watch that will be high up on my end of the year list. Comedy stock Market.

By the way, when you guys figure out who the voice of Comedy stock Market is, let me know. It’s a famous person. Let me know when you figure it out. Comedy stock Market. Every Friday we buy, hold or sell stock in comedians And Johnny Mack did you wrong last week?

I told you to load up on Nate Brighetzi, and boy, I cost us the house. Sorry about that. We all live in a camper now, boy Nate really ate it on the Emmys. That was a mistake by Johnny Mac. I thought he was gonna be well.

He did not, So we are selling all all of it. Nate. Let’s get out. That was the peak and he blew the peak. It’s all downhill from here.

Nate Brighetzi has peaked. You heard Johnny Mac declare it. Sell what you have of your Nate Brighezzi get out? Why you still can you know who we should buy? Jim Jeffries just will quietly gobble up some Jim Jefferies.

In the Facebook group Daily Comedy News Podcast Group, Dylan pointed out every Jeffrey special is good and day in, day out, he’s super reliable. So we’ll quietly gobble up some Jim Jeffries as we sell our Nate FORGETSI ahead of here earlier in the week. We should buy more Santino because he can keep a secret. If you heard the Taylor Swift story and you know it’s theoretical he could get invited to the Taylor Swift wedding even though he doesn’t think he will. So because of that, let’s buy some Santino.

Even though I didn’t love the special, the civilians will, We’ll buy Santino, will sell Nate, We’ll buy Jim Jeffries. And that is your comedy stock market for this week. Heading over to Gossip Corner, You’re not getting two songs in one episode, so we do Gossip Quarter without the catchy song. Delta Airlines has issued a response in regards to comedian Guy Brainham claiming another passenger elbowed him for being overweight on a flight from New York to LA What Delta Airlines tells TMZ, Delta sincerely appreciates the actions of our crew and customers for de escalating this situation. We apologize to our customers for the delay and thank them for their understanding.

I’d be furious if there was a delay over this, Delta’s customer care team is reaching out to speak directly with our customer as we look into his claims, said the guy sitting next to him on the Delta flight gave him an elbow to the ribs because he felt guy was too fat for the middle seat. Why is guy flying in a middle seat? You have to have some money. I have aisle seat money. And how big is guy?

Anyway? Guy Brandham, who perhaps possibly maybe wants some attention, posted video from the interaction as he’s in the middle seat, arguing when the man seated in the aisle wait, I gotta find this, then hold on. I had an exciting adventure on my plane flight today. Normally, when I got more money, I’ll fly business class because I’m a big guy. I don’t want to be in anybody else’s space.

And this time I got a comfort plus ticket. And you know I always get worried. You know, I’ve had people freak out at me before, and today it was a middle seat. Not great. A guy came down, a white guy in his sixties.

You’ll see, first he freaked out. Of a woman because she was putting something in the overhead compartment near his seat. Then He sat down next to me and immediately was just pissed off at me and asked me if I could move over, and I was like, no, I can’t. Then he just elbowed me as hard as he could.

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And then I took this video.

Elbowed me because when fast sitting back, Wow, who would you go be? Black? Yeah? Wow, we could be happy about boding that. Well.

I’m not a lot of room here, right, I know I came for the seat. I paid for the seat as well. I think people want to be sharing on with Yes, we’re not showing the US right now. You were using the harvestuosity. I’ll want me to get out.

I’m not even on the armory. I’m not on the harvest, sir. How do you think I should solve this problem? You’re not gonna believe me? Yes, no, I’m curious you think that you think that should exists.

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Also, let’s be fair, you are hardly stuff for yourself.

I’m a member of Wait one. Okay, Okay, I can show it on my prime Okay, and that is how I. In the head five minutes or so. Away. Do you think I have ever I think I have ever tried so this way, No, I’m just saying, I think I have ever tried so this way.

So I don’t know. I really think that I’m a fat person in this country, and I have never tried so this way. I don’t know. Okay. When a fighter saison came by, I told them that he had hit me, but I was okay to say in the seat if necessary.

He like went and complained that I was too fat.

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And then people came and like observed to see if I was too fat, and and the l…

Delta. When they solve a problem, they’s und a red coat lady. And the red coat lady came, like pulled him aside and just greatly talked. Okay, I stopped it there because I don’t care anymore. It’s possible, perhaps maybe that the whole thing is a bit It seems a little sus that he’s filming this whole thing and the other guy’s doing comedy material back.

It’s also possibly perhaps maybe guy needs a little heat on his career because we don’t talk about him much. That’s possible. But what I think happened is this is just a terrible incident and poor guy had an awful time on the airline, and boy, we should feel bad for him. That’s how I feel. I definitely don’t feel that it’s a bit and he just wants attention.

While we’re on gossip corner, THEO Vaughn continued his quest to land a date with the mother of the Vanderbilt quarterback. You may recall the quarterback promised theovon he would set theovon up on a date with his mom if Vanderbilt defeated South Carolina. Of course, the final score Vanderbilt thirty one, South Carolina seven. However, now mister quarterback is saying, oh, there was another stipulation. THEO Vaughn has to set the quarterback up with Tate McCrae.

Get out of here. I mean, what is that I’m not handing in Saturday’s podcast unless you set me up with a date with Sidney Sweeney and my wife’s gonna be pretty mad about this bit. Get out of here with this Deo von did his best. He shared a screenshot of a DM he sent to Tate McGray on Instagram. On Tuesday, he sent a photo of the quarterback he captured it.

Hey, Tate my friend said, I could take his mom on a date, but only if he’s able to take you on a date. If you don’t want to go on a date with him, I can also take you on a date. And that is your comedy news for today. About some plenty of stuff. I’ve got a pretty robust weekend coming up, so don’t skip the weekend episode has got a lot to tell you about.

And I’ll see tomorrow

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Caloroga Shark Media. Hello again, I’m Johnny Mac. Another bonus Jimmy Kimmel episode. So what this is. This is a crossover episode with The Letterman Podcast.

Mike Chisholm and I jumped in the respective studios and talked for about an hour about Jimmy Kimmel. I do want to, just in case you’re just catching this episode, clear up what the feed is. So it is Thursday. There was the normal episode on Thursday morning, there was a bonus episode about Kimmel. You’re hearing this now.

Then on Friday morning there will be a normal episode where I don’t talk about Kimmel at all because I had recorded that before any of this happened.

And then I will come back on Friday afternoon and do another Kimmel episode.

But let’s just jump in with Mike Chisholm from the Great The Letterman Podcast. All right, Johnny Mack. I like that we do this. I do not like the reason that we do this. Lately, I will talk with you all the time.

I just I appreciate you so much and everything that you contribute to the world of this thing that we love so much, which is comedy. Everybody Daily Comedy News podcast. Subscribe, listen to it every day. It’s awesome, Johnny, What the heck is going on with Late Night? This is insane.

I’m still as we record. We’re what nineteen hours into this news story? Twenty hours in? Yeah, my head is still spinning. I dropped a bonus episode on my feet on Wednesday night.

I was just reacting, couldt I’m just so stunned by this, and forget about what I have been calling Colbert Gate. This is a whole other level for reasons, we will get into this. This is not Oh, your show’s losing forty million dollars and we didn’t want to ruin your vacation. This something else entirely. Yep, I could not agree more.

I’ve got two things going against me. Number One, I’m Canadian, so I don’t quite understand the nuances of everything going on down there. So I’ve got some questions on that. Number two is that I’m a buffoon, and so I need to talk to people who know more about these things than I do. To me, there’s a couple of issues here.

People are talking about free speech, free speech, free speech, okay, but then there’s also broadcast standards, the rules that need to be adhered to and if those were violated. And perhaps there’s a third one, which is personal taste. So everything with free speech checks out, everything with broadcast standards checks out. But the personal taste is now such that it has irked people who can make decisions on that. In your opinion, what are we dealing with here?

Sure, so let me speak to the FCC part of it, and I’ll approach this the way I do in my college classes. Legal scholars will be able to nitpick what I’m saying here. I don’t want to use the phrase dumb it down, but I’m simplifying. Please do for a realizing to get the point across succinctly. So, the FCC governs the airwaves as we used to call them AMNFM, radio, broadcast television.

Those are scarce resources. So if you look at the FM dial in the United States, if you look at the New York City FM stations, there’s one at ninety two point three, the next one’s at ninety three point one, the next ones at ninety three point nine, etc. They’re all point eight apart. YEP. That is so that the radio stations don’t step over each other, and we regulate that if you and I started a pirate radio station at ninety two point five, it would interfere with ninety two point three.

So we have government oversight to say, Okay, this station goes here, that station goes there. Go. The same logic applies to television. Okay, because those are scarce resources. We don’t have infinite band, we want to make sure that they’re properly taken care of.

In the public interest as a phrase, you hear a lot in the public interest. As part of that, you shouldn’t be reckless. And there are things you can do that could have your license to broadcast on such frequencies AMFM television taken away. Yes, the government cannot as to risk. Maybe they can.

But up until yesterday morning, I would have said, cannot take your station away because they don’t like what you’re saying. Now, there are rules. There can be corporate rules, there can be federal rules. For example, you can’t swear on broadcast television on HBO where all you want, but HBO is coming to you. And again i’m simplifying through a wire it is cable television as a term.

Maybe you’re getting a satellite or over the internet, whatever you’re not using the spectrum to receive HBO, so it does not apply. I worked at satellite radio, same thing that wasn’t governed by the FCC. We still chose not to yell fire in a crowded theater, but we could drop f bombs we want. The other thing about things like swear language is the FCC is not staffed and does not spend their day going around playing gotcha. So you could go on ninety two point three FM and go ffff and just curse for two hours, and if no one complains, there won’t be an investigation because no one has complained.

Yes, if someone complains, then they’ll investigate, and you know there’s recordings or whatever will be like, oh, this guy, Mike, he broke the rules, and then that would normally be a fine. We will find your radio station. For the twenty three times Mike broke the rules and you’re scolded to go straight to taking away a license is off the charts. Extreme. I used to work for WOR Radio under Buckley Broadcasting, who had acquired the station from RKO.

Now at some point my memory’s foggy. Here o r KO was, I’ll cute it up, strongly encouraged to sell all their radio stations to get out of the business for whatever they did wrong. So it was was the rehorse head involved. Something like that, Right, so sell the stations or we’re taking them away. Okay, And I heard Keith Oberman say this on his podcast.

Keith was unable to think of he could not recall a time when a TV license was taken away. I cannot and I can’t easily recall a radio license being taken away other than for maybe for like you know, you haven’t actually broadcast on your frequency in years, you’ve clearly abandoned it, so we’re taking your license away, that sort of thing. Okay, let’s hit a pause here for a question. Let’s go back to perhaps an example that that we would when the Smothers Brothers were pulled. It had nothing to do with what you’re talking about here, licenses being pulled and the actual right to be in business and broadcasting.

Correct, that’s that’s that’s not the same thing. No, not at all. These Smothers Brothers, much like Jimmy Kimmel said some things that were based in opinion. Yes, network chose not to back that opinion. And I want to get into the let me sidebar here for a second too.

I’ve worked a lot of big companies. You back your talent that was drilled into me by those who game before me. You back your talent. You may have a conversation in the back room and be like, hey, Mike, can you cut it out with the Canadian stuff? You know, let’s get that a lot.

Yes, Yes, Publicly, I’m not going to shun you. I’m going to say, you know, Mike’s been an outstanding host for us. We love the Letterman podcast. We continued, you know, we’re going to continue to work together for years to come. Now, in the back room we might be like, dude, the advertisers are like it, right, enough with the Colbert stuff, get back to Dave.

But that’s a whole separate thing. Publicly, we’re going to support you. So this news on Wednesday that I was in the car, I was telling the story in my show. I was picking up my nephew at the train station. I played on my phone, and while I was playing on my phone, it was that the next Star stations were pulling Kimble, which was a big enough story, and within ten minutes it had evolved into ABC is pulling Jimmy kimmelive pulling, not even like, you know, we’re gonna run a rerun tonight because he has a cold, which is you know, something you could do.

Jimmy’s not feeling well today. That kind of stuff goes on Straight’s a poll, Are you kidding me? And ABC is owned by Disney? But these are big numbers, these are big players, big numbers, these are big things. Here’s what I’m saying.

So I was talking to some friends about that. You know, Hey, you know we’re mad. We’re gonna boycott ABC. We’re we’re gonna take this out on ABC. Okay, boycotters, and I emotionally support you.

Yeah, but I’ll ask the boycotters. While you’re boycotting ABC, are you also boycotting Disney, Hulu, Star Wars, Marvelville? Yep? Are you boycotting all that too? Because you’re either boycotting or you’re not.

And I’m as much as I support Kimmel in all this, I think you’re not. Yeah, that’s right. Well, okay, so I’m really grateful that you framed it that way, and even in the aside, because my phone started blowing up at the moment of the Kimmel announcement. And I think a lot of people don’t even know what you just said. Is that, well, hold on a second.

Twenty minutes before a very important piece of the puzzle was placed, and it was done so in plain sight. But many people aren’t talking about that right now. So can we go into that a little bit. How big of a deal is that within the broadcasting world. To have stations pull a show has happened in the past.

There were ABC affiliates that didn’t show NYPD Blue until they got over themselves and aired NYPD Blue. There have been shit. And affiliates have switched networks because of things like this as well. Right, sure you do you? Yeah?

Do you? Yep? I think there were forgive me if this is inaccurate. I think there were some stations that didn’t air the Carol O’Connor series in the heat of the night for whatever reasons. One might make that decision.

So affiliates can do this, and then you get into the discussion of, well, hey, if you guys are going to be an affiliate, you probably should air our programming, and you know you can break up and all that. But to further the timeline, a few hours before the next star piece of it. The FCC chair was on a YouTube podcast and made some comments about Kimmel and how Disney better do something, and it was a little loaded, and I think things escalated very quickly. Many people are looking at this story as through the lens of Jimmy Kimmel said horrible things. He shouldn’t be on the air.

But the real story is the FCC chair going Hey, wouldn’t be the worst thing if Jimmy Kimmel weren’t on the air. I’m just saying, sometimes people who lose licenses, you know, you never know what happens in this world. And it’s really about the FCC pressure on the stations, which again, to come full circle, Jimmy Kimmel didn’t get on and go fffff, which would have resulted in a fine. Yep, this is Oh, we’ve got a late night host who said things that somebody doesn’t like, and things rolled downhill. Yes, and then actually the President of the United States later in the day tweeted that NBC should get rid of Fallon and seth next.

Now, let’s stop off there. Even in a world where we’re like, you know what, we shouldn’t be criticizing our leaders. We shouldn’t be making jokes about our leaders. So this seth Meyers fellow. He has to go to Yep, even if I flip that card, we’re coming after Jimmy Fallon.

Jimmy Fallon’s biting, cutting edge political commentary. Exactly what’s going on here. Yeah, So let’s precurse that what you just talked about there to when the announcement of Stephen Colbert came to light. The last time we did an emergency podcast, President Trump at that point, what was the first thing he said? Celebration about Colbert, Kimmel’s next, Kimmel’s next, and now, and then you have people who now, okay, So here’s the other question that I have.

How is the FCC an independent organization or are they a full on government organization where literally, like you said, things roll down hill from the top, a decision could be made and it could roll downhill and just be this is now our mandate. I e. We don’t like Jimmy Kimmel. I don’t know the legal structure of where on the on the government organizational chart the FCC falls, but they are the government regulate of the public airwaves. Again, if on the Jimmy Kimmel podcast, he could do whatever he wants, and he could broadcast from his boat in the middle of the Pacific, and if he has an RSS feed, he can get his thing out there.

And that has nothing to do. With for now. What you’re saying is for now, we can’t well for now. But the crux here, even a version of Jimmy Kimmel Live airing on ABC doesn’t have their own Peacock. But if you know Jimmy Kimme alive on Peacock or Disney Plus or Disney Plus straight to Disney Plus without touching the public airwaves, that has nothing to do with the FCC.

You can frown all you want, right. You could say, when when Disney Plus wants to merge with Peacock, maybe we’ll throw a wrench in the wheels, you know, maybe that kind of thing. But the crux here is you’re using your airwaves to say things we don’t like, and we’re going to take your license away. And the stations went, ooh, we don’t want to lose our license because then your business goes from X million dollars to you have no asset at all, right, which is scary, Yes, but you and I were I think I did this publicly in the Facebook, in your Facebook group, and I keep thinking of Edward Rmorrow. I can’t stop thinking of.

All right more with Mike Chisholm in a second, be right back, Okay. So let’s connect it just a little bit more. Okay. So this this thing that’s happening with Next Star, there’s a merger as well, is there not? Did I read that?

I’m not sure I have. Okay, I thought I read that there was a merger as well, but that could have been the One thing that I do I do not appreciate about the world right now is the amount of fake, like headline like clickbait type news that’s out there. And that was something that I did read that there’s a there’s some sort of merger that’s upcoming as well. But the startling thing about this is, like you said, two different issues here, the idea of taking a host unpopular opinion in certain circles and allowing that retribution to occur. In your mind, has that ever happened?

Has on this scale? Has this ever happened? So there’s the court of public opinion. You know, nothing is coming to mind, but there could be a scenario where someone on TV says something and then there is public outrage and then this person either gets put in time out or I’m sure if I took a second think here, there’s plenty of examples of people having gigs that abruptly end because they said. Something totally Yeah, Jimmy.

The Greek, I think his career may have ended. The old CBS betting guy, I think his career may have ended abruptly. And my apologies to the Greek family if I’m misremembering that. But uh, you know, there have been a couple things that. The Greek family.

Yeah, apologies to the Greek family, but yes. There have been some things like that. So sure, but that’s the court of public opinion, where that is the court of yo. The advertisers aren’t going to support this anymore, you know that that’s a thing. But this is seemingly pressure from the Federal Communications Commission.

Yes, and that is just I want to get to what he said. I’ve had a lot of people maybe we can Okay, So you’ve thank you so much for that background. I appreciate it very very much. It provides a lot of insight. There’s a lot of people I don’t think that even knew about.

Again, that previous fifteen minutes. Proverbially, I want to talk about I’ve had a lot of people reach out to me. I’ve talked to like eight former Letterman staffers, all which I’m not going to name any of what we’ve said in our conversations. One of them said, and soberingly, this is the end of democracy as we know it. I want to talk a little bit about what he said.

A lot of people have said to me, Oh, what would have Dave? How would Dave have handled the Charlie Kirk situation? And my word, you know, we could go into that too, but I want to talk about what he said, and let’s get to the free speech aspect of it, and the and the and the was what he said really like, I’m not going to say it’s not in poor taste. Somebody just was killed very publicly, and they’ve got a family and they’ve got like so there’s always that part of it. There always is.

Now the asterix is many times late eight host comics too soon? Is it too soon? No? Can I start making fun of this now? And they make fun of things right so we know that this is the culture that does exist.

Was what Jimmy Kimmel said over the line as I put together my podcast this week. On Wednesday, when I was putting together Friday show, I saw that Newsweek had an article about people reacting to Jimmy Kimmel’s comments. I clicked on it, I read it, and I didn’t even put it in my script. It wasn’t a thought. In my head.

I did not read that. And let me say loudly and clearly, no one should be murdered. No one. Yeah, I read the comments, I didn’t react to it at all, and I didn’t put it in a script. And a lot of things make it into Daily Comedy News, and I didn’t even put that one in.

So I personally didn’t read Kimmel’s comments. I still haven’t heard him speak them. I’ve only read them. Yes, me too, personally did not freak out. Now, if you want to get into the too soon or all that, the opposite of too soon is if you go back to last week, the first thing Kimmel said, and maybe as you talk, I’ll pull up on my phone he said something like, can we all just be decent people for a day and not get into this?

So I’m gonna look that quote up. Yeah, no, please do I’ll talk a little bit too. One thing I do want to throw out there real quick, Like, I’ve had so many people saying, oh, Dave would have diad this, and Dave would have said that. Hold on a second. In my opinion, David Letterman like, let’s go back to OJ for a second.

The O. J. Simpson thing. And many people attribute Jay Leno and the Tonight Show going past Late Show and the ratings partially because Jay Leno made fun of the hoopla around the OJ Simpson trial, which was back in the day, believe it or not, you know, one of the top things that all of pop culture was talking about was this O. J.

Simpson trus Dave famously said I don’t find double homicide funny and said, let’s steer away from that, and Jay went full force into making fun of all of that. So, to me, the sensibility of Late Night slash Late Show when making any political humor was to celebrate. To me, it was to celebrate the buffoonery of it. President Bush the second, you know, walks into a wall, you know, knows first, Okay, let’s celebrate that. Let’s let’s let’s make fun of that.

You know, he called President Clinton bubba Okay, So so it’s not like it’s not like he didn’t make fun of things, but he made fun of buffoonery as opposed to trying to weave into it, which is I don’t know if it was The Daily Show or whatever it was, but we’ve into it political commentary or social commentary into the joke at the same time. In my opinion, that wasn’t Dave’s thing. That wasn’t Dave’s thing. He might go for a hidden meeting or some irony maybe under the surface of the joke, but that would be the limit of it. I don’t believe Dave would have touched this with a twelve foot poll other than to maybe book people who talk about the polarization of our of our of our society, and people are listening to words and going out and inciting violent those words are inciting violence.

I think Dave would maybe comment on that in a serious way with a guest. I don’t think he would have touched in his monologues making fun of I don’t think he would have touched Charlie Kirk. That’s just my opinion, and that’s to answer probably thirty people’s questions they’ve asked me the same thing so or they’ve talked about it, so I just want to throw that out there. I’ve noticed more and more on my own show just how much of a Letterman influence there is. I will I will one of the reasons I like it, John, I will drop an uh that I don’t need to and it’s not me doing a filler word, but I will do the Letterman the quote from Jimmy Kimmel and I didn’t need to do that other and that is a thing that’s just in my brain from Dave.

The thing we’re going to talk about here is just a Davism that’s in my brain from when I was fourteen years old. Yes, I share his sensibility. I’ve struggled with this. If you listen to my pod, YEP, I have been thank you. I have been saying.

What I want to do is make fun of Jim Gaffigan signing bottles at a Kroger, which is a thing that happened last weekend. I feel Jim Gaffigan doing a bottle signing for his whiskey at a Kroger is exactly what I want to do. I want to nitpick Adams saying their movies. I don’t want to talk about somebody being assassinated, but I do have to talk about Jimmy Kimmel not being pulled off the air, and to do the story properly. Now I have to.

There’s clearly some political things to it. I’m not trying to debate mister Kirk’s work or nots, although I need to have I have just now before I started talking to you, I did some research to learn more about him. I will encourage people google the phrase controversial Charlie Kirk quotes and then choose an international source of your choice. So you’re not being biased by the US media. Why don’t you read some European articles about it, Yeah, and then you can form your own opinion on how you feel about what he had to say.

Again, no one ever, ever should be murdered, exactly Jimmy Kimmel on day one. I found the quote Jimmy Kimmel said on September tenth, instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just for one day agreed that it’s horrible and monstrous to shoot another human on behalf of my family. We send love to the Kirks and to the children, parents, and innocence who fall victim to senseless gun violence. And you hear me choking up even reading that. I know, I know, I’m gonna run this guy out of town.

Exactly. Yeah, that’s right. And that’s that we talked about clickbait earlier with headlines and whatnot. That’s a sentence or two with no context. Is how we live of People will pull out the eight words that somebody says, the fragment of a sentence that somebody says on a podcast and say, oh, and they’ll point at it completely out of out of context.

And I believe that that is certainly certainly happening here on a larger scale when you go back six days, five days, whatever it was. At the same time, I look at what he said, so let’s take yes, murders and again taste too soon all of that. I don’t know that what he said is something that in a sane world is actionable. I can’t. I’m having a hard time seeing it.

And I tried to put it through the lens of Okay, what if it was a very liberal person and and some stereotypical situation, you know, a gun son of a gun showed up and did what they did, would it be the same reaction I’ve been looking at it that way as well, and I’m trying to put the words over it. I don’t I can see why people would be upset about that commentary or that that opinion, if you want to take the humor or the attempted humor out of it. But I don’t see it being actionable. But again, Canadian and a buffoon. I don’t know why.

But is it actionable? Again? The network can have their own standards, Yeah, the advertisers. Do you have influence on all these things? Right?

It’s that it’s a federal thing. I mean, what happens if someone doesn’t like the opinion piece in Tomorrow’s New York Times? What happens if somebody doesn’t like this podcast? Can I stay in your extra room, Mike, Like, this is just not the way things have been up until this point. Are you hip to the Brian Kilmead comments from over the weekend?

I’m not, No, okay, I have to pull this up correctly, because again I don’t want to misquote people. I know it’s laying the guy playing on his phone during it. No, no, no, no, we’re good, We’re good. I’m I’m about four days behind everything right now because last week, I was in Calgary seeing Public Enemy. Interviewed Chuck D.

And he’s like a huge Letterman fan, talked about his I interviewed him for six minutes. That’s gonna come out, hopefully, Chuck D’s coming on the show and he’s going to talk about his love for Letterman. But yeah, no, no, no, So if you if you put these in your in your show, already forgive me. I’m a couple of days behind it. So Brian kill Mead was on Fox and Friends.

Yeah, they were discussing the mentally ill homeless challenges the United States is facing. Yep, we are too. By the way, reading verbatim here, then kill me chimed in quote or involuntarily or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill him? Oh okay, so yes, yes, yes, this I am familiar with that.

I haven’t gone into it deeper. Is there more context to that quote? It was just a discussion of what are we going to do with these homeless people? Let’s kill him? Excuse me?

What? Ye? Mister kill Mead has apologized yep, and he still has his job. I don’t know what Jimmy Kimmel was going to do during Wednesday’s monologue, he apparently was going to address this situation. I don’t know if he was going to comment, apologize, you know, maybe he changed his own opinion, Maybe he was going to double down.

Maybe he was going to meet in the middle and be like, you know, I didn’t I’m Jimmy Kimmel. I don’t come out here to be a jerk Monday night. And you know some people took it the wrong way. Let me clarify further and do one of those type monologues. Yeah, or maybe he was just going to do Trump jokes for twelve minutes.

I don’t know, but you know, we gave mister kill meat the benefit of the doubt. He’s still got a gig. There we go. Yeah, we’ll talk about context. That adds a tremendous amount there.

That’s right now. I mean we’re again if there is a merger happening or this big business, these big business behind the scenes with him, doesn’t sound like there was any of There’s plenty with Kimmel. And again, it’s just so the idea that if President Trump behind closed doors, you know when he makes that here’s the thing about me, is a Canadian listening to the things that come from down south and come up. One of the things the opinions that myself and a couple of friends who talk about the dumpster fire that is your government right now is is things like Trump will say, this sounds ridiculous, and it’s proven ridiculous. This sounds ridiculous, and it’s proven ridiculous.

This sounds ridiculous. Okay, but that sounds ridiculous, and then one of them in the middle will come to pass and it will happen. And this does feel like they’re coming after late night, and I the from up here, the level of eerie tension that I’m feeling is palpable. How is it down there in New York? So a lot of people like Team A, a lot of people like Team B.

Yes, but things have challenged our mutual friend Alex Bennett. So back in the day, he and I would do friendly discussions about politics in the hallway, serious and they were very friendly, and we would give each other the business, and depending on the news cycle, you know, he’d be like, hey, I saw your boy, did da da da da?

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And then I’d be like, I saw you’re a candidate, Da da da da da.

And we would just. Do that and we’re friendly and we’re still friends twenty years later. Yes, that’s gone now that if you open up any sort of discussion and you’re not rooting for the same team, there’s no friendly banter anymore. Nothing gets solved. We’re not going to meet both ways, and there’s just so much noise.

You know. For example, we’re all talking about Jimmy Kimmel today. There are some other things that we might need to talk about that are Should we have a discussion about guns. Charlie Kirk had a clear opinion about guns, but maybe the events weren’t. Let’s have that conversation, and let’s have the respectful version of that conversation.

Let’s just take a look at things. Let’s not yell and scream, and you know, let’s not set out on a course of far I’m going to take away your rights or no you’re not. Let’s just talk things through. You know. Yes, somebody, uh, factually and I don’t mean to laugh there at all, so let me wake that off.

But somebody say, uh, somebody who had advocated for the right to bear arms. Fine, yeah, was assassinated. YEA, might be a good time to just have the conversation. You know, it’s funny. I know that certain parties whenever like a school shooting happens, there were people the too soon thing that we were talking about.

When when there’s a school shooting that happens and people start bringing up the idea of of of of that it’s the Second Amendment, right, people who are in favor of that start to stop trying to take this and uh and make it. It’s a manipulation almost, And to me, that is a that is a crazy argument. And when somebody who I would love to hear with civil discourse as you’re as you are are talking about like we have gun controlling candidate now. I mean, don’t get me wrong, my dad rests in peace and all of his friends hunters forever. All of my dad’s friends had guns, mostly rifles and things like that.

But we we have gun control up here. The gun crimes and the murders a fraction of what they are down south. This guy is a guy that rallied people like what he rallied them about. Don’t like what the rallied about. This is a center of influence down there.

One of your centers of influence in your country was just killed. Is it not the best time to talk about this, and again Canadian and a buffoon. So I don’t know, but wouldn’t that be the time to talk about it. The time to talk about it was after a few dozen children were murdered at Santejo, Connecticut. Right, we didn’t and that’s when I heard it.

I’m getting choked up even bringing that memory out that we didn’t have that conversation that day. Bogo’s my mind. And again, what. Formed that conress station should take? Your dad would like to go hunting?

I would like to buy an AR fifteen with many many stocks that can fire off more rounds in one second than a farmer in seventeen ninety two may have been imagined. Yeah, but you’ll get the deer. You’ll get it. So let’s what are we talking about. Let me just try and lighten this up about so you’ve talked about too soon?

Okay in terms of comedy and too soon. You just have to nail the joke. I actually saw a good joke within twelve hours. I’m paraphrasing it, but the gist of the joke was that the head of the FBI, or the assistant head of the FBI was a podcaster. Yep, and we’re investigating the murder of a podcaster.

This is exactly what podcasters are into true crime. And there was a joke based around that premise. There you go, that’s a in terms of crafting a joke, yep, that is a good joke premise. Now, do you show up at Charlie Kirk’s funeral and tell that joke? No?

What are you an a hole? No? Of course not, but you know a Yahoo on social media firing that off? You know what clever writing. If you told that at the Chuckle Hut at ten thirty, that is what comedians do.

And okay, you know at some point it’s too soon. It’s environmental, it’s you know, you’re joking among friends, you’re at the comedy club, you’re hosting a late night show. You know, Like I said, you don’t show up at the funeral and do that material. Yep, But at the Chuckle Hut it’s a well crafted. Joke and it needs to stay that way.

I’ve been hanging out with stand ups a lot lately. I’ve been I’ve been I’ve been trying to get the skill under my belt, and so I’ve been doing some local open mics and things like that. And I mean the level of that balance is so important to know publicly, especially when you hang up, when you hang up with stand ups, because a lot of the time when you’re at the table, after the place is closed, the joke there is no too soon because it’s a free form. And this is just my experience. I’m not saying it it’s like this with all stand ups, but I’ve been through a couple of different pods, and to me, the similarity was you could say anything you want at that table and nobody is going to be chastised for it.

Nobody’s going to be you know, they might say, oh man, brother, no like they might give advice about it or whatever. But you’re free to say that stuff. But time and place is extremely important. Of course, I want to pivot a little bit with you, John. I was just on the phone not to name drop, but I’m gonna name drop Scott Ryan, who wrote Last Days of Letterman, which is my favorite book at about all things Dave.

I even like it an edge more than the Bill Carter books because of just what it is. Scott Ryan, awesome guy friend. He’s gonna come on the show again soon. We were talking about this as well, and he said to me, he goes, okay, I want you to go into your memory banks here. We might need Don Giller for this.

But do you remember when Dave started in his late show run. Somewhere along the line, Dave started, while he was doing his monologue, he would throw to a video piece of some sort. It never used to be like that, Like people might come in and interrupt the monologue or something like that, but he would never throw to a piece of video. And that started, and we think it started around the time that Jimmy Kimmel started around then. Just the evolution of this and then so we got into this big conversation about this, and then it goes back to the Daily Show and to me, you take Weekend Update on Satday Live.

Okay, it merges comedy and commentary, but the Daily Show really really was, in my opinion, the first thing to really blew the blur the lines between the two on a giant scale is what we’re seeing here, in your opinion, the eventuality of doing that, Like is this the extreme like like if the extreme of I don’t know, is this the extreme of it where where political commentary is so interlaced with comedy that it will incite violence. Is that the eventuality that come from mixing those two mediums together. I’ve never met any of the you know, I have met Jimmy Fallon. Other than Jimmy Fallon, I haven’t met the rest of the current generation of late night hosts. Their public personas, they don’t seem like they’re trying to incite violence.

I feel like they’re joke tellers. I feel Colbert and Kimmel and John Stewart and John Oliver. Maybe truth teller is to use a term that gets thrown around in a lexicon. Ye I feel and seth. I feel Fallon is like, Hey, it’s the tonight show.

I’m gonna do karaoke with let’s be Yep. That’s not a dig, it’s We’ve had this conversation many times. Yep. That’s Jimmy Fallon understanding what the tonight show is. That’s Lane.

Yep. Kimmel, his public persona has always been more outspoken. I don’t at all think he’s trying to incite violence. I think he is wearing his politics on his sleeve, whereas maybe a previous generation did not. And that’s okay.

You know, we’re all smart people. I know what I’m watching now. Back to John Stewart. Yeah, he was the first one to He freaked out when he found out he was the most most trusted man in America, and he was like, no, no, no, I’m doing a comedy show. What no, No, don’t trust me.

I’m telling jokes. You know, he was the first one to say it. You know, Kimmel’s monologues have been a little more loaded for lack of a better term. But I don’t think he’s. Hiding it’s uh.

So, no, I was hoping the original question, is this the evolution? I think it’s just the who’s in the current chairs and you know, we’re gonna have to see what happens on the other side of this now. So it’s okay, it’s it’s it’s okay. We have this medium that’s mixing these two things together. You know, maybe it’s three things.

Actually, now I think about it, it’s it’s not just commed. It’s comedy commentary, and it’s also news because, like you said, Stuart, talking about there was a lot of I remember reading when I was growing up an article that talked about how a lot of people were getting their news from weekend update on Saturday night Live and then later on you you referred to John Stewart people saying that all the time that they go into check in with the Daily Show just to see the major headlines of the day. But now it’s grown and evolved from that and twisted to people forming their comment getting opinions from these things. I’ve heard Colbert say it as well. People have flat out asked him, you know about him the truth teller part that that He’s like, I’m just trying to make it’s just jokes.

It’s just jokes. And fairly recently, I think it was during the you know, the Biden run is when the last time I heard him say that at an interview. I think all of them say that, do they really believe it? They like John Oliver. I watched John Oliver show a couple of weeks ago, and I love I love Last Week Tonight.

I do think my wife and I both think that over the run it has gone from silly and interesting to certainly, in my opinion, it is the expression of mandates from above. You know, it’s moved in that direction. But I think today if you still ask John Oliver if he should be a trusted source for whatever I think he’s still gonna side on the idea of being a comedy show. Yes, absolutely, is that but is that reasonable? Like these guys are all brilliant guys, and and some gals too who’ve been who’ve taken the mantle a little bit.

They must understand because they’re fans too, they must understand that there’s some responsibility on that side of it. They must understand that, really, Like, wouldn’t you think? I think it’s been the evolution of the media, how we communicate in general. You know, So if we go back many presidents, you know, Ronald Reagan was the whale, and we all we all did the whale impression. Whoever started that?

Then we all did Dana Carvey’s Bush. By the way, Johnny Carson did a phenomenal Ronald Reagan. Yeah, you know, but you know it was less about the politics and more about this old cowboy. It was caricature. Yeah, and that’s what the Bush impression was.

And Clinton and I want to dance delicately here because I don’t want to offend, you know, Monica Lewinsky jokes there is a person named Monica Lewinsky. Yes, but generally speaking, Monica Lewinsky jokes were about Bill Clinton and the Intern, not specifically the Intern Monica Lewinsky. It was about the married dude in the Intern and he’s the president, and that sort of joke. That’s what that was. It was the way to talk about You could say Lewinsky instead of the word blowjob, which you’re not allowed to say on TV.

Yeah, say Lewinsky and everyone knows what you’re talking about. You know, we get into George w and we got into the malapropisms of it all, and that was sort of a harmless, harmless characterature.

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Meanwhile, people were very much debating the politics of the times, but the …

It was just funny. On No one really nailed Obama, nobody really nailed Biden.

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And then we have Trump, who almost every comedian says, it’s not it’s too har…

Now, if you’re hosting a show, if you talk into a live mic long enough, you’re gonna just you’re gonna say things. I’m gonna listen back to this hour, We’re doing, and I’m gonna be like, I wish I had phrased that better. I wish I had I wish I had explained that better. Oh I misspoke there. I taught a class today for two and a half hours.

I’m sure I said something stupid. And when you’re live, or if you’re live to tape, you do enough thing, somebody’s gonna get wrankled and you’re gonna wish you had phrased something better or differently. But over time, if you listen to somebody for twenty thirty years, in some cases with the late night hosts, you get a feel for what they’re about. Yes, you know, they might not outright say I’m on Team A or Team B, but you’ll kind of sort of get a vibe, you know. You know, if you told me Jimmy Kimmel were I don’t know hunting, was hunting with George W this weekend, I’d be like, Oh, I didn’t expect that doesn’t seem like it matches Jimmy Kimmel’s persona.

If you told me THEO Vaughn went hunting with George W this week and I’m like, yeah, okay, cool. Sounds about right. Great example Yep, let’s get one more break in here with Mike Chisholm from the Letterman Podcast. Be right back. I’m still I’m still dumbfounded by this.

My my, my original. I think the Facebook quote that you look the Daily Comedy Podcast or Daily Comedy News podcast commented on was my first line of that one. If it’s the one I’m thinking of. By the way, go to the Letterman Podcast Facebook group, everybody and enjoy the come, enjoy the talk outside of this viewing and listening pleasure. And be very respectful talk to you know.

I was in that chat on Wednesday night. It was a very topic Yeah, all respectful. It was totally like you know, I think part of it is that we’re all on both baffled by it. I really do. But my my my initial sentence was I hope Disney supports Kimmel.

And this is kind of to go back to something you said earlier. What do we think, like what are we taking? Are we taking this Vegas taking bets? Is there odds on? This is is because I mean, yeah, like you say, you know, it’s a lot of stations potentially in play, and Disney of course is gonna is gonna look at that.

Is it a foregone conclusion that he’s gone. I think he’s gone. His contract only goes to may yep, the whole you back your talent, you did not back your talent. He’s floated the idea of retirement. I’ve been quite loud about not believing him at all, because me too, What else are you going to do?

Yeah, but the network didn’t back the face of the network and just his public persona personality. I think he’s gonna tell them the buzz off. Now it’s a pay or play contract, I imagine, as most are, they could compel him to perform. Here’s the money. We do want a show tonight, so pay or play is.

I’ve signed you for sixteen million dollars a year, whatever the number is. And in exchange for that, probably your holding company will provide Jimmy Kimmel to provide the duties of host. That’s probably how the deal is. So ABC can say, well, the money and the deal here says Jimmy Kimmel as to host Jimmy Kimmelive, and we’d like our Thursday night episode please. I think he may tell them to go buzz off and walk away from the money, in which case, he would get fired and that would be the story Jimmy Kimmel gets fired, see them going, you know what bigger fish should play here?

We want to get other deals done. We didn’t nobody complained about celebrity family feud. Let’s just run that and who cares? And CBS gave us cover and we’re out of the late night business too, and we’re also going to save X million dollars, so we’re out. I think he’s gone just based on his public persona, Like, how do you come back from that if the network didn’t back you, especially with you know, nine months to go in your contract, sit home, collect the money and figure out what you want to do.

And you know, much like Obi wan Kenobi, he may become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. Uh yeah, the uh you know, I want to talk a little bit. Okay, so let’s let’s put a pin in that because the whimsical part of this. I knew how I wanted to finish this podcast today with you, because I mean, like, it seems like it’s just bodyblow after bodyblow after body blow, and and and there’s so many reasons to be sad. I wanted to end with a little bit of whimsy.

So we’re gonna end with that, but just to go into what you just said too about the contracts and whatnot if you want to learn more and do a deep dive in this subject, including that talks a lot about pay or play contracts. Bill Carter’s second book on the subject, called The War for Late Night, highly recommend. I highly recommend both The Late Shift and The War for Late Night. They’re phenomenal books. I believe that they are books one and two of a trilogy, because the third one is being written right now.

I am positive that that’s happening, even though I try. I I reach out to him, and he’s not. He’s not answering that question. He’s being very elusive about it. But if you read The War for Late Night, it talks about this because the Jay Leno deal back in the day when he was on ten PM, the contract that he signed was actually it wasn’t just a pay or play contract like what you just talked about.

It was a pay and play. He was guaranteed that he would be on the air and because of that part of that word, and that was the reason that NBC was so intent about keeping him, either putting pushing Conan back, putting the Tonight Show back, whatever it was, because of that contract. So these contracts very very important when it comes to when when when stuff starts hitting the fan, very important to know that stuff. And it’s gonna be very interesting to see how uh uh, you know, I’m curious what James, Baby Doll, Dixon and Jimmy are talking about today. I’m curious about a lot of these things.

One of the things that where the whimsy comes in is the idea of what these guys are gonna do next. Like I have thought about a Conan O’Brien, Stephen Colbert sketch show four times a year, you know, like where they could really come up. I mean I said it jokingly kind of in the in the group, but there’s a lot of people that are saying to me, oh my gosh, Strikeforce five could be a weekly podcast that could come out and be absolutely huge. These guys, all of them, no matter what happens, They’re gonna land on their feet, aren’t they. Like I get this feeling that even though yeah it feels bad now, they are gonna land on their feet.

Yes, asterisk I just did a hit spot on Alison Lips podcast, and I brought this up, so let’s talk. It out to Alison. Greetings from the Idiot Box. Let’s go back to Conan. Conan gets fired from the Tonight Show, and we all love Conan.

We all rally behind Conan. And you know what, we never talked about Mike the eleven years on TBS. No one cared. Sorry, we all love Conan, but no one cared. It just kind of went.

So, you’ve got on the Big three or the Big four networks, but you’ve got one of the big three eleven thirty shows that that’s something that’s a big platform, even in the diminished era of twenty twenty five, when it’s not Johnny Carson’s Tonight Show, it’s still an eleven thirty network show. You’re somebody with a capital S. Yes, I’m a podcaster. No, you know whatever. You know.

Amy Poehler is awesome. We love Amy Pohler. She had a great sitcom, she was great on SNL. She’s got a big podcast. But like, is Amy Pohler’s podcast the Tonight Show?

No, it’s we’re watching reruns of Parks and Reck. Not the Amy polar Show, you know, and it’s super popular and I’m sure she’s being paid well, then she’s really good at it, and we all love Amy Polar, But it’s not the Tonight Show, it’s not eleven thirty five. So will they land on their feet? Will they work again? Sure?

Conan O’Brien has landed on his feet and he won the Mark Twain Prize and everybody loves Conan and he’s sink Conan and it’s all great, But we’re kind of glossing over those eleven years in the wilderness on Turner. I got to take a little exception for that because my gold it’s so funny. I love my Okay, my golden age of Late Night was actually Late in the Late Show run by a nose. I loved Late Night growing up. It’s what created the sensibility that I have.

Was Late Night. It was literally weird fertilizer for the plant that was me. But my favorite run in late Night was when I had Late Show, Craig Ferguson’s Late Late Show and Conan’s TBS Show. And I will throw this out there by a lot of people say what you said there? Maybe they weren’t habitual viewers of it, but we wouldn’t know guys like Jordan Slansky.

We wouldn’t know, so now we wouldn’t know Reggie Watts. There are some things from that show. I think that show is probably the most underrated part of Conan’s work, and a lot more from that show has entered our culture. But I do hear where you’re coming from. Would you talk about the idea of him doing Late Night and then the Tonight Show and then that show?

It’s a completely different deal. But people still talk about the Chris Rock Show. People still talk about the Dennis Miller Show. It’s just in a different way than they talk about the Tonight Show. Is what I would throw out there.

Yeah, I’m not saying it’s bad. No, no, no. Jimmy Kimmel gets a show on Hulu. Yes, it’s nice. I mean the first week will be like Jimmy Kimmel’s back, good for him, Yay.

But let’s check back two and a half years into Jimmy Kimmel’s Hulu show, and let’s yes see where it is in the zeitgeist. Yes, and that of course that can’t be you know, that can’t be argued. You and I have seen it where it’s gone from one Late Night show with outliers to two late night shows, solid but both on the same network, to it then expanding into kind of a an entertainment slash broadcasting subculture of its own. We’ve seen that happen, so everything can you know, you know, you have the expanding and the other thing, the contracting. The expanding and the contracting of things were that happen right now, But we’re also watching a contraction of the medium itself, and it’s we are living in fascinating times, like I got the popcorn made, and I’m glad that I have you to talk about this with and so many other people to talk about this with, because obviously some parts of this are heartbreaking, you know, certainly the real life events things like that.

But at the same time, when you kind of take that emotion out of it, this is fascinating to watch right now. It’s a good news story and I always like a good news story and sitting in front of the television watching things like you said, eating the popcorn. The thing, the thought I do want to put in everyone’s mind before we start heading for home is what’s really worrisome here is the departure from the norm. So if you support, if you think Jimmy Kimmel should be gone. He said horrible things and all that.

Okay, when President Democrat comes for Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and Andrew Schultz, yep, that’s going to be just as badsolutely absolutely well. And again I hope that you and I can keep doing what we do. I hope it doesn’t then move to that down the layers, like is YouTube next? You know, is there going to be some sort of mandate that anything that gets put out there content wise? That that to me seems unthinkable, But at one time there was a comic books code and and so you know, we it’s it seems unthinkable because of our time and place.

But oh no, no, no, no, like this could easily happen. And I think perhaps us talking about this and certainly, you know, if there was not an incentive to at least get if not getting fully involved, at least get competent on you know who it is that is setting the standards, the laws, the regulations politically around us, making sure you know who your local leadership is, who you’re you know, the next level, and then up to federal it couldn’t be more important. And I hope that this, if there is an optimistic thing, I hope that this can serve as a wake up call for people to get involved and create the country the world that they want to create, because we do currently it seems that we have that opportunity still. But at point does it feel like it’s slipping away? I hope you’re right.

I do think there are those whose your initial reaction to the story is good, he should be fired, and then you know it’s good Colbert is gone. He deserves it. And you know, maybe you don’t find either them funny or you don’t like their politics, you know, but I could rattle off, you know, should we all come for Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson shouldn’t have a show anymore. We’re gonna get rid of Tucker Carlson.

I personally don’t watch Tucker Carlson, but I have no problem with Tucker Carlson existing. Yeah, do your thing, and I’ll choose not to watch. I feel the exact same. I choose to listen to your podcast because I can’t watch it, although you do have the YouTube stream now but with the graphic, but the Daily Comedy News podcast, I can’t endorse it enough it’s on all the major podcast platforms, and there’s a YouTube version of the show too, similar to this one as well. Johnny, I thank you so much.

I know we’re going to talk again sooner than later. I hope it’s all with happier circumstance. But I just appreciate everything that you do, and thanks for taking some time kind of spur the moment to come on here and we can do this together. And it’s an honor always to even be mentioned on your show. I appreciate your shout outs.

I appreciate everything that you do. Thanks for being such a good friend. Bud backcatch and let’s hope the next one is a happier episode. I couldn’t agree more. Thank you so much, and it’s always great to talk with Mike.

As I said, I’ll be back in the morning with a normal episode that was already recorded where I don’t talk about any of this, and I’ll check in with you on Friday afternoon with developing news on this massive Jimmy Kimmel’s story