Jerry Seinfeld and regret over the Seinfeld finale

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Featured: Jerry Seinfeld, Jeff Schaffer, Larry David, Brad Williams, Billy Gardell, Bob Hart, Eddie Murphy, Jim Norton, Nikki, Emily Catalano

What’s in This Episode

  • Jerry Seinfeld reflects on Seinfeld finale regret and defends the ending
  • Brad Williams on comedy process and how it humbles even billionaire comedians
  • Billy Gardell returns to stand-up after 3-year TV hiatus and 173-pound weight loss
  • Billy Gardell discusses maintaining fitness while touring and finding local inspiration
  • Eddie Murphy reveals Beverly Hills Cop initial industry screening didn’t go well
  • Jim Norton’s podcast Sword Fight features honest conversations with his trans wife Nikki
  • Emily Catalano new album Hey Hey released on limited edition vinyl

Questions Answered in This Episode

Does Jerry Seinfeld regret how the Seinfeld finale ended?

Jerry said he doesn’t believe in regret philosophically, but acknowledged the finale bothered him a little. He and the writers reviewed it and felt the final jail cell scene was actually great, defending the selfishness of the characters as essential to comedy.

How much weight did Billy Gardell lose?

Billy Gardell lost 173 pounds and has been maintaining the weight loss through disciplined eating habits while touring and working out regularly, even adapting a trainer’s philosophy of finding time in the day to exercise.

Why did Billy Gardell take a break from stand-up comedy?

Billy took time off from stand-up to work on his health and lose weight, spending about three years away from the stage while working on TV shows and rearranging his life.

Did Eddie Murphy think Beverly Hills Cop would be successful?

No, Eddie Murphy was scared after the industry screening went poorly in 1984, but director John Landis reassured him. When Murphy saw it with a real audience, the reaction was completely different and positive.

What is Jim Norton’s podcast about?

Jim Norton’s podcast Sword Fight features honest, truthful conversations with his trans wife Nikki about typical married life and relationship dynamics, without pretense or masks.

What did Jerry Seinfeld say about confessional comedy?

Jerry cautioned that at 53 and beyond, comedians need to focus on getting real laughs rather than relying on style or confessional anecdotes, as the audience needs genuine humor to justify attending shows.


Full Transcript

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Caloroga Shark Media. Find me. Oh, I’m Johnny Mac with your Daily Comedy News. Gqsked Jerry had the Seinfeld finale bothered him all these years. Jerry said a little bit.

Yeah, I don’t believe in regret. I think it’s arrogant to think you could have done something different. You couldn’t. That’s why you did what you did. But me and Jeff Schaffer and Larry were standing around talking about TV finales which we thought were great.

I feel Madman was the greatest. A lot of people like the Bob Newhart won, Mary Tyler Moore was okay. I think mad Man was the greatest final moment of a series I’ve ever seen, so satisfying, so funny. And they said that they had sat and watched the Seinfeld finale trying to figure out what went wrong, and it was obvious about that final scene leaving them all in the jail cell. I think we were affected by some things.

People had said that they were selfish or whatever, and looking back in it, I think they were great. I love them. First of all, you’re not doing comedy without self directed individuals. There’s an essential element of comedies in Shakespeare in Forever. You can’t do comedy without selfish people.

That’s what people relate to. Jerry talked about revealing very little about himself. Jerry said, I do this one bit about I don’t have arguments to my wife. Now. When I say those things, the audience knows that they can’t be true, but they don’t care because they want to hear the joke.

The great joy to me is I’m making this up, but let me see if I can make it sound like it makes sense to me. That’s what comedy is to me. They know I’m lying from the first line, and they don’t care. I always say, I don’t want to hear amusing anecdotes from your journal talk about something that couldn’t possibly have happened. That’s what I want to hear.

I just think, if you’re a comedian and you want to survive, your only flotation device in the oceanic words of show business is real laughs. When you’re young and cute and interesting at twenty three or thirty three, a lot of things work when you’re fifty three. If you want people to get in their car and pay cash and schlep into those seats, it’s harder. I would just caution the next generation. If you want to do this your whole life, which every comedian does, make sure you’re getting real laughs.

GQ asked, Jerry, are you saying the more confessional style of comedy is anti laugh Jerry said, no, no, no, I’m saying I know a million comedians who’s work dried up at fifty three. You gotta be ready for that. Make sure you’re working to be ready for that. Forbes asked Brad Williams’s surprised you about doing stand up that you didn’t know beforehand? Brad said, one of the surprising parts about comedy is also one of the most beautiful.

You can be Jerry Seinfeld, And the process is still the same, and the stages are still the same. Jerry still has to walk through the kitchen. He’s a billionaire and he hangs out in the same tiny green room that all the other comics do. Comedy humbles you, it keeps you humble. Forbes also caught up with Billy Gardell.

He’s back out doing stand up after being a TV star for a few years. Here he says, at the beginning it was terrifying because I hadn’t done it in like three years. Obviously, I took some time to change my health, and I took some time off to rearrange the puzzle pieces. You know, I lost one hundred and seventy three pounds and I had to get used to this frame and what this body wanted to tell me. So it’s been fun to explore that.

Yeah, if you haven’t seen a picture of Billy Gardell, google him. You won’t recognize him. He looks great. The first show back was terrifying, But then I don’t know, man, something happens when you get that connection with the audience. You start to want more and more and more.

And now I’m really having fun again. I can’t believe I’ve gotten to do two hit TV shows. I don’t know who gets to do that. My wife says, I’ve got a horseshoe in my butt. But the common thread in both those shows is that love wins the day.

Where the world is right now. I’m so proud of that show. Bob Hart’s Abashola all right, how as I keep the weight off, I’m religious about it. I pack healthy stuff in my suitcase. When I get to a destination, my first trip is to get some healthy snacks of the room.

So I don’t tempt myself. I find a way to work out. I got a trainer who says there’s always time in the day. It just means you gotta get up an hour earlier or go to bed an hour later. I’ve adapted that mantra man and finally learned it’s not torture to do this stuff.

It took me until fifty two to figure it out. I’ll be fifty five in August, but I’m a big believer that enlightenment doesn’t care when you get there, as long as you arrive. I’m learning to take care of myself and I’m finding joy in that. Maybe he’ll get me remotivated for someone who Humblebragg did the New York City Marathon. I guess it’s seven months ago now.

I can’t run two and a half miles right now. It’s just it’s unbelievable. Don’t turn fifty something, guys. Billy Guardell talks about localization. I try to find something cool in each city I go to.

I tell my son this all the time. You gotta go look for inspiration and it’s not gonna knock on the door. You gotta read. When I was in Kansas City, I went to jazz legend Charlie Parkers gravesite in Saint Louis. They’ve got toasted Ravioli.

In Philadelphia, it’s the Liberty bell Or Museums. And usually some kind of inspiration will come from that. Other things he does. I’m a big vinyl guy. I’m always adding to my record collection.

I also like to mess with my car a little bit. I’m a simple guy that way. When I got my downtime, I’d try to cherish it at home. Eddie Murphy didn’t think Beverly Hills Cop was going to go well. He was twenty three years old in nineteen eighty four.

He went to the industry screening and said it didn’t go well. A lot of times at industry screenings, they don’t laugh. I thought the movie was going to be horrible. I was with director John Landis and he was like, no, it’s great. I thought they hated it.

Then I went and I saw it with a real audience, and I saw the real reaction to it. But the very first time, it was scary. Beverly Hills Cop axl F on Netflix July third. They might even make a fifth movie, Murphy said, they’re developing it. If it comes together, we’ll be doing another one.

However, the latest film took a toll on his body. I messed my knee up before the movie started. I didn’t mess my knee up doing a stunt. I mess my knee up sleeping. When you’re getting your sixties, you get miss your body up just sleeping.

I hear you the only times really likes Jim Norton’s podcast sword Fight. Jim says, we have the typical married stuff and people can respond the way they want to. But the podcast is accurate, it’s truthful, and we’re not trying to put masks on to pretend. The best way to get people to change how trans people are viewed is to interact with trans people so they can realize, oh, hey, they’re just like everyone else. She laughs at weird things and wants to do stuff at eleven at night when she knows I have to work in the morning, so it’s like having a child.

Nikki said, I also think Jim’s friends know this is for real, and I think they can tell that Jim is very serious about this relationship. In my eyes, what a man Jim Norton is to take me to comedy clubs around all these men. When I’m from another world and foreign, you do get looked at a little differently. But what a man he is. I mean people might look at him as a little feminine or a little sub in a way, but you’re such a man, Jim says, you see what marriage life is like.

She makes me feel really good. Do you see what a man is? He’s a trans icon. Sure, the whole world thinks he’s a fruit and a sub and a bottom, but I’m telling you what a man. My guest on tomorrow’s podcast is Emily Catalano.

She’s got a new album out today. It’s called Hey Hey.

Also comes available pressed on limited edition vinyl with a gorgeous matt fi…

Emily Catalano’s Hey out today on the Blonde Medicine label, and I’ll speak with her tomorrow. It’s more of a twenty minute John interviews the comedians. If you’re looking for one of these one hour epics that I’ve handed in the last few weekends, it’s not that. John Christ will tape his next special tonights at Gas South Theater in Atlanta. Law Smith spoke to Creative Loafing Tampa Bay.

Law is making a comedy special quote unquote, Finally, law Smith says, I squandered previous album deals, made excuses like my divorced drama taking up all my ram space for years, been fourteen years in comedy without any asset to show for it. I turned forty on June twenty fifth, and it gives me something on the calendar to either net up or shut up. He’ll be at the Gimmick tonight and Sunday, where he’ll be taping his first special over two nights. It might wind up being called Sunny State for Shady People, or maybe not. He hasn’t finalized the title yet, but the main topic is all set Florida and tim Bah.

Smith said, My argument is that Florida is the most American state. It’s the f ups that important here to start a second life that make the Florida Man news. Smith also hosts a podcast called Sweat Equity that contains comedic elements, but is also focused on small business and entrepreneurial advice and strategies. As for the tapings, law says, I wanted to keep it local because Tampa Bay has amazing underrated talent. Go see him tonight at Vick gimmick.

British comedian Ted Robbins is related to Paul McCartney. Yes that Paul McCartney. Robin’s late mother was Paul McCartney’s first cousin. He told the Chattabis podcast that having such a huge star in the family has not been easy for everyone. He says, Paul and my mom are first cousins.

You know when people do the who’s the most famous person on your phone? Well that’s mister McCartney. In some ways, it’s a great thing, and for some members of our family I won’t name names, it’s kind of screwed their lives up a little bit because you’re compared, you know what I mean, Paul McCartney and all that you’ve become a dentist great. Robbins thinks that’s particularly true for Paul McCartney’s younger brother, Mike, who as a musician and goes by the name Mike McGear. I think Mike is brother who’s the loveiest lot of men and talented, but his fears on his gravestone here lies Paul McCartney’s brother.

Robbins also claims Paul McCartney’s nineteen seventy song Teddy Boy was written about him. You know, he wrote a song called Teddy Boy, which was on his first solo album called McCartney and you know it goes this is the story of a boy named ted and it was sort of inspired by me. Hm. The Washington Post has been looking at the DC comedy scene. They spoke with Shelley Kim, who has been performing since high school in southern California.

She describes herself as proud husband and father. No, I didn’t mess up. How do you describe your comedic style, Shelley Kim? Shelley says, when I’m starting out, I was described as deadpan, but I learned I was deadpan because I was mumbling a lot. I’ve really worked on my inflection since then.

My comedy is much more accessible and most importantly audible. But who knows what my style will be in the future. Maybe I’ll be using puppets. Tell us about a time you bombed, She says, Oh gosh, one time someone played cricket sounds from their phone. I still shudder when I hear crickets at night.

Do you have a day job. Let me know if you’re hiring. What’s your appreciate routine? I mount the first few words of my set, over and over. It’s more of a nervous tick than a routine.

I’m doing my best and not to be a mumbler again. What else should we know about you? Let me know if you’re hiring hilarious. And that is your comedy news for today. All right, Emily Catillano.

Tomorrow, a normal episode on Sunday. See you then,