Conan O’Brien Says Late Night Is Dying PLUS a shocking suggestion for Best Comedian Right Now

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Caloroga Shark Media. Uh oh, it’s August twentieth. You know what that is. That’s the two minute warning on Johnny Mack’s summer. I’m gonna panic and have to go to the beach ninety five times in the next ten days to Labor Day.

And Labor Day is a pesky Monday, September first, So all of a sudden, it’s gonna be like, hey, back to school. Uh. Conan O’Brien, Oh Hi, I’m Johnny Maack with your daily coming. He was. Conan O’Brien says Late Night TV is going to disappear, but quote people like Stephen Colbert are too talented and too essential to go away.

I put the spin on light there. I think he said it as a compliments, and I’m not taking a dig at Kobert. I just noticed I put some spin on the sentence that I didn’t need to. Conan talked about all this while being honored at the TV Academy Hall of Fame ceremony. He was inducted as one of the six new members into the Hall of Fame, joining Ryan Murphy among others.

Macpacker Henry Winkler.

Speaking of macpack I’ve been oding on Bash Brothers, the Andy Samberg thing …

It came out like five years ago, and I put it on last week. It’s on Netflix. I’ve been watching it about once a day and playing the soundtrack endlessly. Just go check out Bash Brothers. It’s amazing.

Anyway, Mac Packer, Henry Winkler’s in the Hall of Fame. Now Conan’s in the Hall of Fame. Conan said, you know, people say that television is dying, but I want to ask you, if our industry was really in trouble, would we be gathered right now for our greatest night in a downtown Los Angeles Marriott on a weekend in August. No, Conan O’Brien joked, things are changing fast. I don’t claim to know the future of our beloved medium, but I know this, Getting the privileged to play around with an hour of television has been the great joy of my professional career.

We’re having this event now at a time where there’s a lot of fear about the future of television, and rightfully so. The life we’ve all known for almost eighty years is undergoing seismic change. But this might just be my nature. I choose not to mourn what is lost, because I think, in the most essential way, what we have is not changing at all. Streaming changes the pipeline, but the connection, that talent, the ideas that come in our homes.

I think that’s as quotent as ever. We have proof here tonight the elephant in the room CBS ending the Late Show with Colbert Conan said, yes, late night television as we have known it since around nineteen fifty is going to disappear. But those voices aren’t going anywhere. People like Steven Colbert are too talented and too essential to go away. It’s not going to happen.

He’s not going anywhere. Steven is going to evolve and shine brighter than ever in a new format that he controls completely. I had an idea that’ll never happen. It was recently the anniversary of the Larry Sanders show What If Colbert, And remember in the past, Colbert played a character called Stephen Colbert. What If Colbert went to HBO and did a new take on the Larry Sanders Show.

So it’s about what happens to quote unquote Stephen Colbert as he gets a quote unquote late night show on streaming. That could be fun, but that’s not what he’s going to do. That was my idea. Jimmy Kimmel is calling a hogwash on this insider report claiming that Colbert’s Late Show was losing paramount forty million dollars a year. Kimmel pointed as ever, said, there’s just not a snowballs chance in hell that’s anywhere near accurate.

All Right, that’s pretty clear he has more. The idea that Steven Colbert’s show is losing forty million dollars a year’s beyond nonsensical. These alleged insiders who supposedly analyze the budgets of the shows. I don’t know who they are, but I do know they don’t know what they’re talking about. I would imagine Jimmy Kimmel has pretty good insight into the finances of a late night show.

Maybe the real estate New York versus LA is different. Maybe Colbert’s show has eighty five times as many staffers who have even better benefits. You know, could be stuff like that. But if Colbert is saying forty million dollars a year is not realistic, he’s gotta be in the ballpark. Right.

Kimmel explained AD revenue is only one way shows make money, and that affiliate fees can also make a show profitable. It’s really surprising how little the media seems to know about how the media works. Yeah, like, if you want to be an ABC affiliate, you got to like sign up and I guess pay some money to the ABC’s I recently saw some TV stations stopped being affiliates. Let me see if I can find that story real quick. Yeah, here’s from the Hollowood Reporter in March.

Disney said the Thursday in March that WPLG, the South Florida TV station owned by Berkshire Hathway for the last eleven years, would be losing its ABC affiliation later this summer. That I think has now happened more from Kimmel. Suddenly he’s losing forty million dollars a year. I’ll tell you, in the first ten years I did the show, they claim we weren’t making any money, and we had five times as many viewers on ABC as we do now. Who knows what’s true.

I have to say, if Joe Biden had used his muscle to get Sean Hannity kicked off the air. You may be surprised to learn that I would not support that. In fact, I would support Sean Hannity in that situation because I thought one of the founding principles of this country was free speech. But people don’t seem to care about protecting it unless you agree with them. Kim Well declared this.

I don’t know about this, Jimmy said. More if people are watching late night television than ever before, including during Carson’s era, our monologues get between two and five million views, sometimes more. Every night. Seth Meyers gets two million on YouTube alone. We’re not even talking about Instagram or the other platforms.

The show John Stewart on a Monday night, we’ll get five million views. Then you add in the TV ratings. So the idea that late night is dead is simply untrue. Yes, but the idea that an eleven thirty show losing money is dead, that is true. I mean, if you guys want to just sit home and stream monologues, sure you’ll get views.

And what’s the monetization on a YouTube video versus network television. Jimmy, I mean, I’d pro late night here, but I do understand you have to be realistic about the money and to say like, oh, people are watching Seth Meyers on YouTube. Yeah, that’s nice. Kimmel wants you to vote for Colbert instead of Kimmel for the Emmys. He told Variety, it seems like voting for Steven is the least we could do at this point, and I think it’ll be a nice statement if he does win.

Obviously, awards don’t mean much, but every once in a while they do, and in this case that they get will No, it won’t. The headline will be Stephen Colbert wins Emmy, and then there’ll be articles like haha, CBS, your stupid faces, see what you did. And the show is still canceled. It doesn’t matter at all. All that said, sure, let’s give Stephen Colbert an Emmy.

Seems like a good guy. I’ve previously said if I were the Democrats, I’d get on the phone and call him. But the show’s not coming back. It’s done. It is an X show, it is deceased.

It is no more Late Nighter. Reports Kobert will not get a tenth anniversary special on CBS. That makes sense to me. It’s a dead show walking again. If you do a tenth anniversary special, No one’s gonna go, oh, those guys at CBS are cool.

They’re just gonna say, look at those idiots at CBS and now they’re doing a tenth anniversary special. What jerks they are? So yeah, you’re not getting a ten anniversary special. Sorry, all right, Enough with the late night Friend of the Show, Jen Marcos Soireesi. There was a podcasting expert quote unquote expert who wrote a big article about how you’re not supposed to say friend of the show or friend of the pod.

Why not? Why not? John Marco’s been on twice, seems to like me. His publicist definitely likes maybe treat notes all the time, So sure, Friend of the Show. John Marcos Soiressi is thrilled to announce the upcoming release of his first full length comedy special, Fief of Joy, that’ll be on his YouTube channel September nineteenth.

Thief of Joy blenched on Marco’s signature theatrical flare with deeply personal storytelling. Drawing from his life as a theater kid turned to theater major. He weaves together intimate anecdotes about his relationship, career, and parents divorce, all delivered in the animated style the New York Times called silkly feline physicality and frenetic gesticulation. Was that you, Jason Zinneman who wrote that phrase? I’m pretty sure if I google that exact phrase, that’ll come up right.

Let’s see who wrote that? Yes, that was Friend of the Show. Oh, I said Friend of the show again. I’m going to get a note from the podcasting expert Jason Zinneman. December one, twenty twenty three, New York Times.

Yep says here comic who alternates between silkily feline physicality and frenetic gesticulation. Love it. See I’m not good enough for the New York Times. My review would be like, Yeah, he was really funny. That’s why I’m podcasting in the basement.

Friend of the Show third time, Jason Zinneman. He’s writing for the New York Times. People who went to see Shane Gillis says Shane has a new opening video montage. It features clips of the Philadelphia Eagles defeating the Kansas City Chiefs. The montage includes a hit to the face of Patrick Mahomes.

Interestingly enough, the Chiefs and Eagles played each other week two. A lot of Pete Davison stuff lately, all coming from his interview with Charlemagne. What’s making headlines this week is Pete talking about how I canceled buck Guss and I got in trouble for it because I didn’t I love that show. I love doing buck Guss at a blast. Just got to a point where I really got tired of my whole career just being my personal life and living through that is sort of traumatic.

Not to be lame, but it’s traumatic to live in your own crap all the time. Pete said the show’s direction changed when a new collaborator stepped in. Pete says, this new person came in and was like, I think Pete should be banging Martha Stewart this season. I think Pete should have more mental issues. And I was like, oh, but I wouldn’t do that.

And then we’re like, well, Pete the character would, and I was like, I can’t do this. I was like, if I want any shot and being in real movies being seen a certain way, I just can’t play myself all the time and be this sack A at NBC react, they were not pleased. Have you seen me in any NBC Universal projects? Since they were upset, I cost people jobs, and I took care of the writer’s room and anyone who to get paid that needed to. I took care of it, which also hurt.

But it’s funny you work for company over a decade. Pretty sure. I brought in a lot of money, worked hard on the show as a good boy, like promoting it and whatnot. Made me realize. Yes, everything I’m about to tell you that Pete said, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, It made me realize about the business.

No one actually cares about you. Studios, networks, they don’t really care about you. They want you to do the thing, which I get. And that’s all good. But there was a time when it wasn’t.

Seems like the New York Comedy Festival took my note. I mean, this was probably the plan already, but the original lineup, I was like, that’s it. Eh. Well, the new headline twenty twenty five New York Comedy Festival ads one hundred plus shows featuring Chris Gethard, Mitel Lane, Hannibal Burrs, Erica Rhodes, John Goblecan and Moore. Now now even that the one hundred plus show sounds cool, even those five names Getherared Matteo Hannibal Erica OWDs, John Goblcan those are not like you know, you know, I’m not reading you.

New York Comedy Festival ads Jim Gaffig and Dave Chappelle, Jerry Seinfeld, Shane Gillis, and whoever else you want to said like they’re nice and they’re leading with Gethard, Who’s nice. Highlights include Right Now with John GOBLECN on November seventh, The Magicians of Magic November ninth and tenth. These are the highlights of the New York Comedy Festival. By the way, I didn’t write the press release they did that show hosted by Chris Gethard November twelfth, New York’s Funniest Stand Ups on the twelfth, Comics to Watch, Jay McBride does a half hour that’s the title of j McBride show, Jays Fantastic Mateo, Nick Smith on the fourteenth, Monsters of Tokyo on the fifteenth, Hannibal Burus and Friends on the sixteenth in Brooklyn, Rika Rhodes Pushing Up Daisies at UCB on the sixteenth, and Ricky Valez on the sixteenth. Previously announced headliners for this year’s festival include Hannah Berner, Michael Blaxon, The Not So Canceled, Louis C.K.

Margaret Show, Alex Edelman, Chris Fleming, Pete Holmes, Morgan Jay Ismo, Ryan Long, Nurse, John Joheyesponder, Paul Denello and Amy Sedaris and Trevor Wallace. So let me just summarize this. So basically, the New York Comedy Festival is Louis C.K. Pete Holmes, and then who were putting third Hannibal burs Oh Strangers with Candy with Stephen Colbert’s on this one? Okay, so rephrasing this year’s at New York Comedy Festival is what Stephen Colbert, Louis C.K.

Pete Holmes, and Hannibal Burris, A bit of a drop this year in Saint Louis. Now, now here’s a lineup for you. In Saint Louis, they’ve announced the Flyover Comedy Festival. We’ll be back. Flyover is in November thirteen to the sixteen, so that’s probably right after New York in Saint Louis.

It features more than one hundred and fifty comedians across ten stages. Headliners include The Not So Canceled Disease I’m sorry, and somebody who I think might actually low key quietly be sailing along who right now might be the best comedian in the game, John did you just say that about who you didn’t name yet? I did you know who might really, low key if you pay attention, be pound for pound the funniest out there right now. And it’s also one of the headliners of the Flyover Comedy Festival. You know what name I’m going to say to you, and I want you to ponder it over the break.

Kyle Kanaan, Did you ponder mi Kyle Kanaan declaration? Think about it? He’s really good? Wyn’t you comment? The Facebook group Daily Comedy News Podcast Group.

Hey, Johnny Mack actually watched some comedy specials? I know, right? Yeah? Was this? Was it Friday night or Saturday night?

After I went tubing? Was some night I was too tired to do anything. Let’s see what did I put on first? I think I’d put on Devin Walker’s special because the buzz was good and I watched it. I think he’s a writer.

I think the materials there. I don’t think he’s a good stand up comedian performer, says the guy recording a podcast in his basement about the guy on Saturday Night Live. The Chris Rock joke, which we’ve previously talked about, is fantastic, But I don’t know. The special just didn’t feel like it was there when I switched over to Ralph Barbosa on Hilarious And by the way, what happens too Hilarious when it merges with Disney’s It’s still hilarious or is it going to be dislanarious? Not my problem because the pulp says won’t tell me anyway, Barbosa, this is one of those specials that I think civilians are gonna be like, oh, that was good, and comedy snobs like me are like, eh, it was fine.

Like I didn’t dislike it. I think I liked it better than the reviews I had seen about it, you know, because I went in there going O, everybody said this wasn’t good, and I thought it was better than that. But like, it just wasn’t. There wasn’t anything special, and I’m a snaps. I moved on and then I put on Chinnadoo Auka.

He’s part of the Kevin Hard Lol whatever on Hulu. That specials good. He’s really funny. Let’s keep an eye on him, and he might show up on Comedy stock Market this week. Out of the three I just mentioned, I really like that one.

Haven’t watched Jim Jeffries yet because I really like Jim Jeffries and I have high expectations going in and I was just tired, and then I wanted to check out the new Alien show, which brings me to new thing. Okay, give me a minute here and then we’ll get back to the comedy. I started a new thing. It’s called DCN eight. What’s that?

So you hear me from time to time trying to upsell premium subscriptions to Caloroga Shark Media, And you know what, it’s doing pretty well for us. You get this show and a bunch of others, including five Good News Stories, which I host, and Palace Intrigue, which is our big show, and you get those commercial free for five bucks a month. So for like five bucks a month, you get just about everything on the network ad free. There’s like a minor exception. There’s like one thing.

It doesn’t matter. If I was speaking casually, I would use the word all, but technically it’s not all, But like you know, anyway, I digress. Five bucks a month. It’s all commercial free. So I’m like, you know what, I want to just give the people who do that something extra, and I’m trying to figure out what it is.

So I dropped an episode yesterday of DCN eight. What I don’t want to do is I don’t want to be a jerk and be like, hey, I got a cool comedy story, but I’m not doing it unless you give me five bucks. So all the comedy stuff stays exactly how it’s been for seven years now, not changing it. I’m not going to be like, hey, I’m going to tell you my favorite specials of the air, but you got any five bucks. That’s not what this is.

That’s not at all what this is. So I dropped an episode and I talked about my trip to Niagara over the weekend, my tubing trip. Then I went to Niagra Falls, some stuff I did there. Then I talked about Taylor Swift, Alien Earth and Star Trek Strange New Worlds. So, like I’ve said four times, I’m not siphoning off comedy stories.

I don’t want to do that. But it’s just something extra and hopefully another reason to encourage you to be like, all right, I’ll spore the show five bucks. I’m on the commercial free it’s in the feed. I’m not putting rules on it. I don’t know what I’m going to talk about on it yet.

It’ll find its voice, like any new project, give me like a month and I’ll be like, oh, that’s what this should be. But I just was yesterday. I jumped in the pool. It’s got a cool, new snazzy theme song that I like. It’s like an inexcess vibe.

So to get that on Apple Podcast, click the bander that says uninterrupted listening. If you have already done that, you can find the show in your feed. And if you just want to try it out, there’s a thirty day free trial. So if you want to try out this commercial for everything, take the free trial. But I’m telling you today’s August twentieth.

It’s on you to remember, like September eighteenth to nineteenth, to cancel the thing if you don’t want it to renew, because if it renews, Johnny Mack gets five bucks. Actually Johnny make gets three bucks. Apple gets two bucks. But that’s a whole other thing. Okay, So that’s dcnight.

If you’re on Apple Podcast and you’re a premium subscriber. You’ll find it in the feed. Jordan Jensen, we’ll get a Netflix special on September ninth, her first hour specials called Take Me with You. In a statement, Jensen said, being a person is humiliating and grotesque. I’m not sure why we’re all pretending it’s adorable or palatable in any way, but that sounds hilarious.

Out today on the Comedy Exports YouTube channel at nine a m. Central Time, Love the Randomness and a three pm British time. It mentions Kai Humphries Mischief is out. Cherry and Spoon were at the Minnesota Fringe. So this isn’t the horrible Edinburgh one where you’re like, why am I even here?

Hotels are so expensive and nobody comes to my show and Oasis ruined everything. No, it’s not that one. This is the Minnesota one where people are probably Minnesota nice. Terry and Spoon went to see The Gentleman’s Pratfall Club summary. An actor tries to learn how to fall down for his audition to be TV’s new Captain Clumsy.

Love it the description There’s really nothing funnier than watching the comedy suitcase guys throw their bodies around the theater in the service of comedy. This reviewer says, it’s the hardest I’ve laughed in ten days. Why is it? The people falling down are so funny somehow, even more when it’s on purpose. The plot of the show is that Walter is a struggling actor going for one last edition for a show is not even into He just thinks it’s a good way to go on TV.

There were slaps, trips, getting tangled up in chairs. It’s good old fashioned physical comedy. That’s funny in any era, for all ages. That sounds fun It’s the gentleman’s prat fall Club.


Meanwhile, over in Edinburgh, where Everybody’s miserable fringe voice caught…

Andy’s one man show, Baxter Versus the Bookies, recounts the fluctuating fortunes of a down trodden horse raiding tipster who pits his close up knowledge of horses against the flashy statistics of the online bookies, comedy and pathos. Hopefully Andy’s approach to the fringe. He said, I used to drink at the Penny Black till five am and still do two shows nowadays. My doctors told me to give up smoking and drinking or die. So this will be my first totally sober and nicotine free festival.

It’s going to be crystal clear. The Horror. Top advice for an artist considering the Horrible Fringe where everybody’s miserable, He says, like with betting, only do it if you could afford to lose. Edinburgh Festival is criminally expensive. Now if you listen every day, see if you can answer the question before I tell you the answer.

They asked him, if you could change one thing about the festival, what would it be? Do you know what I’m going to say? Do you know what he said? That’s right? No search pricing on accommodation or travel during the festival.

Why do people go? All? Right? That is your comedy news for today again, if you would like to program with that commercial interruption Apple podcast banner on a interrupted listening and now you get DCN eight with it. So check that out, SAE tomorrow